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The 'how-to' plan to criminalize Christianity
world net Daily ^ | Oct 18.2008

Posted on 10/19/2008 3:02:48 PM PDT by sbark

The 'how-to' plan to criminalize Christianity 'Homosexuals know they must silence the church and that's what's behind this'

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: October 18, 2008 12:10 am Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

A growing movement that experts believe could end up in the criminalization of Christianity in the United States is being exposed in a new documentary being prepared for airing on October 26, officials at Coral Ridge Ministries have announced.

"Hate Crime Laws" is a half-hour exposé that shows how Christians in America, Canada, Australia, and Sweden have been arrested and prosecuted for expressing opinions that are rooted in the Bible regarding homosexual conduct, Islam or other topics about which Scriptures express clear teachings.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Activism; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: christianity; culturewar; gay; hatecrime; homosesuality; homosexualagenda; islam; sodomitesvsislam
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To: JudgemAll

If you haven’t done so already I encourage you to read through Obamanation’s blueprint for change. While it will be hard to stomach it’s important to understand just what “The One” has in mind.

Look at the Service section (pg 61) in particular and you’ll have a good idea of how indoctrination can reach a new level.


21 posted on 10/19/2008 4:17:41 PM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: RockyMtnMan

Very interesting... I’m going to check on it.


22 posted on 10/19/2008 4:22:19 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: JudgemAll

BO wants to limit the abilities of the Christian Church. How else can the Anti-Christ rule and reign?


23 posted on 10/19/2008 4:24:33 PM PDT by realcleanguy ("I have not yet begun to fight")
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To: Zionist Conspirator
The question I keep asking is when are homosexuals and moslems going to bump into each other in this little festival of political correctness?

That's a really good question.

Here's a closely related one: what happens when Christians are persecuted for doing X, Y, and Z ... but Moslems are doing X, Y, and Z also, but, of course, that's okay, because they're Moslems and it's "part of their culture"?

24 posted on 10/19/2008 4:41:57 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Will "anti-gay" crimes be ignored if perpetrated by moslems (or defended as "part of their quaint non-western culture"), or will islam have to modify its teachings as well?

Not a gay thing, but some town in Canada had a conflict between their anti-smoking ordinance and the cultural imperative of letting the muslims smoke their hookahs. I don't remember how it turned out, but I LMAO.

25 posted on 10/19/2008 4:58:39 PM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: JudgemAll

It all reads like a metaphore of the government corrupt nincompoops of taking luxuries into the honest tax payer turned slave. It sure explains the “homosexual agenda” - aka “sexual-orientation” to generaly encompass (by such hyphen language) things such as legalized pedophilia - as a metaphore of this.

Hate-crime is another such hyphen system targeting hate and not the criminal act of molestation that homosexuals want to be shielded from. All these are politicaly motivated prosecutions from a “lower class” perspective, and the 1st amendment is indeed what is under direct attack, turning courts into prosecutorial grounds of political dissidence. Anything targeting corruption or subsconscious knowledge or revelation or repent regarding Obama’s lack of abilities is targeted. It is obvious he somehow knows he is incompetent to the core but fears having this exposed, much like when a dog “rules” aggressively a household.

Liberals need a strong master of some sort. They seem to prefer to go bankrupt and be forced along with others in “equality” under a dictatorship rather than repent. Hence the heavy handedness of Islam is ironically secretly welcome by them in many corners... as well as the corrupt liberalness of their leaders which would allow them to partake or “feel” like it, perhaps.


26 posted on 10/19/2008 5:12:02 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: gracesdad

And why would you call claims of this article of outlawing Christianity by homosexuals “ Silly “ ???? ... that is nothing to laugh about innocent Christians standing up for their faith and being persecuted..... that was a shameful statement you said.. what is so funny about Christians being persecuted ?


27 posted on 10/19/2008 5:12:34 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: RockyMtnMan

It all reads like a metaphore of the government corrupt nincompoops of taking luxuries into the honest tax payer turned slave. It sure explains the “homosexual agenda” - aka “sexual-orientation” to generaly encompass (by such hyphen language) things such as legalized pedophilia - as a metaphore of this.
Hate-crime is another such hyphen system targeting hate and not the criminal act of molestation that homosexuals want to be shielded from. All these are politicaly motivated prosecutions from a “lower class” perspective, and the 1st amendment is indeed what is under direct attack, turning courts into prosecutorial grounds of political dissidence. Anything targeting corruption or subsconscious knowledge or revelation or repent regarding Obama’s lack of abilities is targeted. It is obvious he somehow knows he is incompetent to the core but fears having this exposed, much like when a dog “rules” aggressively a household.
Liberals need a strong master of some sort. They seem to prefer to go bankrupt and be forced along with others in “equality” under a dictatorship rather than repent. Hence the heavy handedness of Islam is ironically secretly welcome by them in many corners... as well as the corrupt liberalness of their leaders which would allow them to partake or “feel” like it, perhaps.


28 posted on 10/19/2008 5:13:05 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: realcleanguy

The Church has been underground before, is currently underground in China, and will be underground again before this is all over. We win in the end.


29 posted on 10/19/2008 7:25:51 PM PDT by bradthebuilder (War is peace; Ignorance is strength; Freedom is slavery)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
The question I keep asking is when are homosexuals and moslems going to bump into each other in this little festival of political correctness? Will "anti-gay" crimes be ignored if perpetrated by moslems (or defended as "part of their quaint non-western culture"), or will islam have to modify its teachings as well?

Hate crimes will still be hate crimes, they just don't matter to people who commit violent crimes. They only matter to people who have something to lose.

In the case of a future generation of violent Muslims in our country who may commit hate crimes due to Islam's "intolerance" for gays, the crimes won't be as easy to solve if the perp gets away (no one will cooperate with the police and the police may not be too inclined to try real hard to investigate do to the backlash from the "community" that he belongs to, etc.).

Also, once the victim is dead, it won't matter to the victim. The other gays, will get the message to keep a low profile, go back in the closet, move away, etc.

As to how these crimes will be handled, The story below is of a gay man who was shot outside a gay bar in Detroit a couple of years ago. The kid that shot him was black and was not charged with a hate crime (prosecutor wanted to get a conviction and didn't want to cloud the issue by introducing the gay hate element as I recall), although he was convicted of attempted murder (as I recall).

Shooting victim, 31, target of hate crime
Man taunted outside gay club
Roberta Pennington, with files by Monica Wolfson, Windsor Star
Tuesday, January 31, 2006

A Windsor man recently shot in the head outside a gay bar in Detroit was the victim of a hate crime, Detroit police said Monday.

Detroit police spokesman Det. James Fisher said a 17-year-old youth has been arrested in connection with the Jan. 10 shooting of 31-year-old Salvagio Vonatti outside Gigis Bar, a popular gay club in west Detroit.

"It's a hate crime in my opinion," Fisher said.

"I'm only classifying it as a hate crime because if you approach someone and you make reference to their sexual preference (before shooting them), that's a hate crime."...

30 posted on 10/19/2008 8:01:08 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: itsPatAmerican

vote against evil.


31 posted on 10/19/2008 8:06:36 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (Proud Father of 2 US Marines. Support our troops!)
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To: little jeremiah

Good read! especially the replies, New screen names...


32 posted on 10/19/2008 8:11:30 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (Proud Father of 2 US Marines. Support our troops!)
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To: gracesdad

What (specifically) is so “silly” about it?


33 posted on 10/19/2008 8:16:04 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (Proud Father of 2 US Marines. Support our troops!)
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To: bradthebuilder

Well, Jesus wins, and we become partakers in that victory by faith


34 posted on 10/19/2008 9:35:56 PM PDT by realcleanguy ("I have not yet begun to fight")
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

Thanks for the ping - just walked in the door, I’ll see if I can ping it out tonight. Or maybe tomorrow...eyes starting to droop...

I agree with many of the comments - and Obamination certainly wants to eradicate our freedoms as enumerated in the Bill of Rights, starting with the First Amendment.

I don’t believe he will win. Only by massive voter fraud, which they know, and that’s why they’re doing it.


35 posted on 10/19/2008 10:22:04 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Think rock, paper, scissors. In the end, Islam will prevail because they are stronger, tougher, and more disciplined than the effiminate ones.


36 posted on 10/20/2008 7:45:45 AM PDT by Augustinian monk
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To: Augustinian monk
Think rock, paper, scissors. In the end, Islam will prevail because they are stronger, tougher, and more disciplined than the effiminate ones.

That may be, but they certainly seem tight as thieves right now. Personally, I'd like to see a little tension in the Alliance.

37 posted on 10/20/2008 7:52:31 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Bere'shit bara' 'Eloqim 'et hashamayim ve'et ha'aretz.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
The question I keep asking is when are homosexuals and moslems going to bump into each other in this little festival of political correctness? Will "anti-gay" crimes be ignored if perpetrated by moslems (or defended as "part of their quaint non-western culture"), or will islam have to modify its teachings as well?

Here's my opinion. Islamists will continue to reluctantly ally with the liberal cultural forces in this country in order to encourage Islamic immigration--even as they condemn homosexuality and abortion as part of decadent Western ideas.

Then, when the Islamic population begins to approach a critical mass and a sizable bloc, they will begin to intimidate and make demands of the leftist hand that fed them. Once the left is no longer useful for their purposes, they will drop all pretenses and persecute the infidels as they had planned all along.

38 posted on 10/20/2008 8:20:07 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Zionist Conspirator
The way the bizarre crazy-quilt alliance that makes up the Left manages to walk in lockstep and never attack each other (despite apparently being in conflict on any number of issues) is truly terrifying. Surely they're going to have to deal with each other eventually???

You'll see your question answered when (if) they ever achieve power, which they haven't. Yet. In this country, anyway. Elsewhere, they've treated the world to a wonderful spectacle called the "Purge".

39 posted on 10/20/2008 8:24:34 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
You'll see your question answered when (if) they ever achieve power, which they haven't. Yet. In this country, anyway. Elsewhere, they've treated the world to a wonderful spectacle called the "Purge".

But which side will get purged? The moslems or the "gays?" The Black Baptists or the "chr*stophobes?" The Inner City Ghetto or the Virgin Wilderness? The abortion mills or the welfare moms? The "man is the measure of all things" secular humanists or the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement? The scientific rationalists or the "indigenous pipples?" The "internationalists" or the proponents of national liberation movements and a "planet of peoples?"

Goodness knows what keeps these disparate elements united in a single alliance.

40 posted on 10/20/2008 9:31:51 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Bere'shit bara' 'Eloqim 'et hashamayim ve'et ha'aretz.)
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