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'Jesus is the Homosexual Agenda'
75th Episcopal General Convention ^
| June 14, 2006
| Bishop V. Gene Robinson
Posted on 10/18/2008 12:18:11 PM PDT by narses
On June 14, 2006, the second day of the 75th Episcopal General Convention, Bishop V. Gene Robinson, the first openly gay bishop to be ordained in the church, made the following statement:
It is very clear to us in the religious community that God is alive and well and working in the culture in organizations such as the Human Rights Campaign, and so we sought to become allies with them. They and other so-called secular organizations were cautious about our seeking them out, as well they should be.
Lets be clear here: The church has been the primary source of the oppressions that lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered people have experienced through out their lives. Just as Scripture was used to justify slavery as recently as 150 years ago, just as Scripture was used to keep women out of leadership positions in the church . . . Scripture was used to fight both of those movements of the spirit. And so, indeed, the Church has been the source of most of the pain that lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered people have experienced. And what we try to say to the Human Rights Campaign and others is, if the church is the cause of this oppression it needs to be church people who undo this oppression, and that is what we are trying to do here.
Lets also be clear that the religious right, both within our church and in other churches, are still proclaiming those kinds of oppressive things that are causing our
children to grow up doubting whether indeed they are beloved by God or are an abomination. . . . Only religious people can undo that oppression and that is indeed what we along with the Human Rights Campaign are trying to do in this day and time.
I agree with the conservatives on one point. The conservative voices in our church are saying that at this very moment in the life of our church we are fighting for the soul of the church. I think that is absolutely right. The question is whether this will be a church about rules, about walls, about division, about schism, about threats, about violent language, or will this be a church about the all-inclusive love of God in which every, every baptized person will hear in his or her own heart what Jesus heard at his baptism you are my beloved, in you I am well pleased.
The reason we are at this moment in the life of the Episcopal Church is that there are enough of us gay and lesbian folk that have laid claim to that promise, to that blessing, if you will, that we are Gods beloved children also along with all other baptized members of the church, and we will not let go of that blessing. And the reason we are at this moment is that there are other people, many people in our church who recognize Christ in the faces and lives of its gay and lesbian members. And so we are fighting over the soul of this church, about whether this will be a church about Gods love for all of Gods children or something else, something from the past, something from which we should repent. It is a great moment to be here . . .
After his statement, Robinson and others took questions from the assembled press, who represented the secular and religious media. Following are Bishop Robinson's answers.
What evidence do you have against the likelihood of schism?
I think we are at a place in our church where we want to listen very carefully to what is being said to us from our partners in mission around the world, and at the same time not be dictated to. We are a confederation of 38 autonomous provinces of the Anglican Communion and I am not aware of other times when the Communion has tried to tell one of its constituent autonomous provinces what will and will not be done. What I think the call of this convention is, is for us to discern the mind and will of God as humbly and as best as we can and to stand up and say that. It is not our job to decide what the Anglican Communion will or will not do in response to our actions. What we are called to do is to as faithfully as we can discern Gods will and act on it in our context.
Let me remind you that no one, not in this church, is asking anyone else in the Anglican Communion to raise up gay and lesbian people to affirm them, to ordain them, to consecrate them bishops. This is not some kind of ecclesiastical colonialism here . . . We are only asking to be allowed to do this in our own context.
It is not a surprise to me that the Archbishop of Nigeria is opposed to this issue. The Archbishop of Nigeria is supportive of legislation in that country that imprisons gay and lesbian people and he is supporting currently proposed legislation that will even criminalize a heterosexual person for speaking out for gay and lesbian rights. It is not a surprise to me that he does not know any faithful Christian gay and lesbian folk. No one is asking that church in the Anglican Communion to change its policies or its beliefs.
However, we do know those people in our church who are faithful and monogamous and have lifelong intention in their relationships. We know them because they are sitting here, they are deputies to this convention, they preside at our altars at Holy Communion and they now have one of us as a bishop. We do know those people and we are only seeking to do what God seems to be calling us to do in our context. We are not trying to export that anywhere. We are just trying to say this is what God is calling us to do at this moment . . .
What do you think will happen when there is a vote on this [the Windsor Commission report]?
I have made a commitment not to do a lot of conjecture about what will or wont happen. They dont give you a crystal ball when they consecrate you a bishop. I could have used that. What I will say is that we are not going away. We have been a part of this church since its inception. We will continue to be a part of this church. We are not threatening to leave. The last thing we will do is leave the table. And you see, I think that is what communion is about. It is some kind of commitment to stay at the table, no matter what.
It is our great gift as Anglicans to offer to the worldwide church of every denomination, which is to say that we can disagree about lots of things, and Lord knows Episcopalians do. We are all over the map on virtually every issue you can name. But we all go up to the altar rail and receive the body and the blood of Christ as humbly as we can, and then we go back to the pews and fight about all those things. That is our great gift to the worldwide church.
And we are going to stay at the table. That is the table of the Lords Last Supper, the table around which we can discuss all these issues. That I am absolutely sure will continue no matter what happens at this convention.
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TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Other non-Christian
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:18:11 PM PDT
by
narses
To: narses
His full name is Vicky Imogene Robinson....
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:18:39 PM PDT
by
narses
(http://www.youtube.com/TheMouthPeace)
To: narses; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:18:55 PM PDT
by
narses
(http://www.youtube.com/TheMouthPeace)
To: narses
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:21:40 PM PDT
by
darkangel82
(If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
To: darkangel82
No doubt. Talk as fact in too many schools, including some Sunday schools.
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:22:23 PM PDT
by
narses
(http://www.youtube.com/TheMouthPeace)
To: narses
Let me understand this. Eugene the Bishop no longer holds the Christian doctrine, so he is no longer a bishop of a Christian Church, meaning he should lose his tax exemption status
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:22:34 PM PDT
by
realcleanguy
("I have not yet begun to fight")
To: narses
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:23:28 PM PDT
by
darkangel82
(If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
To: realcleanguy
He was validly and legally appointed by the heretical sect he represents. That rational people recognize his views as Satanic and vile doesn’t change the facts of his Luciferian office.
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:26:00 PM PDT
by
narses
(http://www.youtube.com/TheMouthPeace)
To: narses
Bishop V. Gene Robinson Vile, festering, apostate, puss bucket.
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:27:25 PM PDT
by
tbpiper
To: darkangel82
Not “the church” per se, but the humans in the church. But why link homosexuality with slavery? With women voting. How about linking it with oh, adultery, or prostitution? Sexual sin is not the place to demand freedom. Any sin is not the place.
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:27:37 PM PDT
by
DeLaine
To: narses
Same church who claims that ‘Jesus was ...Palestinian and a community organizer,’ not a Jewish carpenter.
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:28:51 PM PDT
by
Ben Reyes
(Naturalized American Ditto - Yes, I came to America to escape communism, not promote it)
To: narses; 185JHP; AFA-Michigan; Abathar; Agitate; AliVeritas; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; BabaOreally; ...
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:29:33 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: Ben Reyes
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:29:50 PM PDT
by
narses
(http://www.youtube.com/TheMouthPeace)
To: tbpiper
Jesus isn’t a Homo. Its a sin. Jesus was not a sinner. All I know is in the Good Book. I hope you will see the light of God, turn away from sin, and embrace Jesus. Others under Satan’s spell have done this in the past. “If it feels good, do it.” was a great slogan in the 1960s but its not good theology. Its a high speed express train to the hot place.
To: narses
I love the way this ‘spokesman (woman?)’ for God takes God’s law and the teachings of Jesus and his apostle Paul and presents them as “oppressive.”
If it’s the Truth and it makes you feel oppressed, perhaps, “Bishop” you have a decision to make. Either stop living the life that God has instructed you against, or get the hell out of the pulpit.
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:39:19 PM PDT
by
Ghost of Philip Marlowe
(If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
To: narses
“He was validly and legally appointed by the heretical sect he represents.”
Yes your right, but remember, the Episcopal Church is/was the national church of the USA.
I was the senior warden of the oldest (1832) Episcopal church in west Tennessee.
The Episcopal church was made up of the most dedicated and loyal Americans in the country, but has recently been taken over by the dark side, just as the US government has been.
I left the church.
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:42:26 PM PDT
by
AlexW
(Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia. Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
To: narses
This Bishop, with help from Schori and others, is steadily dismantling his church.
It will not exist in 25 years. There will be a few small groups of “social activists” or pagans making claims to this patrimony, fighting over the few physical assets, but even they will soon disappear.
Nonetheless, seeds that were planted elsewhere, at a different time, under different conditions, will, with Gods Grace, flourish into a new Church.
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:42:42 PM PDT
by
PGR88
To: Forward the Light Brigade
I hope you will see the light of God, turn away from sin, and embrace Jesus. ??
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:43:23 PM PDT
by
tbpiper
To: narses
“That rational people recognize his views as Satanic and vile doesnt change the facts of his Luciferian office.” Or orifice.
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:46:01 PM PDT
by
ConservativeMind
(The LA Times, 10/6/08, was told to cut "75 editorial positions." How many are needed for 2 pages?)
To: narses
Homosexuality is a heterosexist construct designed to defend embodied sexism.
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posted on
10/18/2008 12:47:32 PM PDT
by
lonestar67
(Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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