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To: Soliton
The repair crap came from Benford and Marino, famous for their "studies" of spontaneous human combustion and the ability of pyramids to sharpen razors.

BOVINE EXREMENT, Soliton. Sue Benford and Joe Marino did investigate Spontaneous Human Combustion in relation to their studies of the Shroud of Turin because there was evidence for an internal energy source being the cause of the creation of the image. There work was published in a peer reviewed scientific journal, Benford MS. Idiopathic Thermogenesis: Potential Origin and Mechanism of Action, Journal of Theoretics. August/Sept. 1999, Vol. 1, No. 3, published prior to our current understanding of what makes up the image on the Shroud which was determined in the work of the late Raymond Rogers, confirmed independently. Secondly, Non-scientists Benford's and Marino's observations and theory about the Shroud C-14 Sample have now been proven several times over by scientists using multiple approaches, including this current report. What they hypothesized, based on close observations of the photomicrocraphs of the C14 samples, has been proven to be true... regardless of the nature of some of their other areas of interest.

The Raes sample was NOT adjacent to the samples tested, but the Vatican DOES have the piece that was next to it.

That is not true, Soliton. The Raes Sample WAS taken from an area immediately adjacent to, and to the right of the 1988 C14 Sample. There are abundant photographs of the area showing exactly where both samples were taken.

Photographs of the samples analyzed show them to be 3:1 weave like the rest of the shroud and NO THREADS ARE MISSING.

Who has claimed anything about "missing threads"???? No one but you! Benford and Marino are now hypothesizing that the repair was done because someone took a piece of the Shroud in medieval times and needed to hide the fact that they had taken it. That is not based on any research other than their own. There is no reason to suspect such surreptitious shenanigans to account for a repair to a damaged corner. In addition, it was already known that the woman who repaired the cloth and sewed on the Holland Cloth backing was given a piece of the Shroud in recognition of her work. No one knows exactly where that piece was taken from. It is entirely possible that she kept the corner that was replaced with the repair. The matching of the weave is also completely irrelevant. If an EXPERT medieval re-weaver doing a repair that would be "invisible" mismatched the weave, it would be a very poor repair indeed. It would stick out like a sore thumb.

The Thermochemica Acta article referenced has been thoroughly refuted.

PROOVE THAT! Where are the peer-reviewed refutation articles written in response to that research and specifically disproving the findings.

These goobers at Los Alamos... The Los Alamos/STURP goobers ...

Again you devolve to ad hominem attack which shows you really do not have ANY facts to back up your assertions.

51 posted on 09/28/2008 3:15:38 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

M. Sue Benford is a registered nurse, health care researcher, and Executive Director of a non-profit biomedical organization in Ohio. Her education is diverse, from the in-depth study of religion to pursuing scientific testing of unexplained paranormal phenomena, e.g., the Shroud of Turin, pyramid energies, alternative healing energies, crop circles, and Spontaneous Human Combustion.

Benford’s experiences with psychic phenomena are responsible for the redirection of her life into the pursuit of spiritual enlightenment. In 1997, she contacted Fr. Joseph Marino, a Benedictine Monk and Catholic Priest at a St. Louis Abbey. Their divinely inspired meeting, and subsequent joining as life partners, served a research liaison that is credited with uncovering vital information leading to the authentication of the Shroud and, quite possibly, proving the existence of the soul.

Benford’ s newly-released book entitled STRONG WOMAN: Unshrouding the Secrets of the Soul is a real-life transformation story full of hope, strength, encouragement, and inspiration that culminates in the understanding that there is much more to our existence than meets the eye. Visit Benford and Marino’s website for more information: www.unshrouding.com.

Their work with pyramids is best explained in the excerpt below from Sue’s book.

Excerpt from STRONG WOMAN: Unshrouding the Secrets of the Soul by M. Sue Benford.

On March 5, 2001, I built a pyramid using standard poster quality cardboard. My miniature pyramid measured 10 cm high with sides 15.7 cm. and a four-sided base of 9.5 cm each. I placed a dull Exacto-knife razor blade on top of fresh, unexposed Kodak Ultra-speed dental film. I decided that the dental film, securely encased in protective coverings, might produce the charged particle tracks that DelaWarr had recognized on his glass plates. I positioned the edge of the razor blade so that it was facing West. The pyramid itself was positioned so that the walls faced true North, South, East and West while the corners aligned with NW, SW, etc.

On March 7, 2001, I added a 3 cm high cardboard box platform in the center of the pyramid. I then placed the X-ray film and razor blade on top of this platform, which was positioned in the center of the pyramid.

According to DelaWarr, “. . . an ordinary. . . photograph of a person would act as a ‘link’ for tuning-in to him, though not such a good link as a blood specimen or a sputum slide.” (Day/DelaWarr, 1956; 66). Would it be possible to use a Shroud of Turin photograph to get an actual image of the person on the cloth or maybe something else connected to that person? To test this, on March 8, 2001, I decided to build a second pyramid according to the same specs I used on 3/5/01. This time, however, I included a simple 1 by 1.5 inch real looking Shroud-face photograph (the negative version) and laid it on top of clean, dry linen provided to me by the late Shroud of Turin Research Project (STURP) chemist, Al Adler. I put the photograph face down on the cloth then put both (linen and Shroud picture) on top of a fresh, unexposed Kodak Ultra-speed dental film (white, smooth side of plastic film packet against the linen). All three objects - film, linen and picture - were laid on top a 3 cm high cardboard box inside the pyramid. The Shroud face was aligned to face West. The pyramid was positioned so that the walls faced true North, South, East and West while the corners aligned with NW, SW, etc. The final “ingredient” was to focus intense “thought” on the apparatus demanding that an image appear.

On March 15, 2001, I developed the film underneath the razor blade in the first pyramid. It had been in the pyramid for 10 days and had been undisturbed for 8 of those days. I followed the standard instructions for manual developing of dental X-rays, which were included on the packaging sent by Kodak. Incredibly, I could see a faint image of the razor blade in the upper right hand portion of the film. But even more incredibly, I also noticed the image of a strange “fetal” image in the bottom left corner of film.

Where did this “fetal” image come from? Did it possess any of the known characteristics of a fetus (either a real one or the etheric DelaWarr fetus)? I sent the image of the “fetus” to optical physicist, Robert Kersten, for his evaluation. I also asked him to determine whether or not the image had any of the 3-D spatial encoding characteristics of the Shroud and the DelaWarr images. He commented that this image looked very similar to the one he had been shown from the DelaWarr book of the 3 mo. old fetus. He also noted that this fetus differed from DelaWarr’s in that it appeared to have an umbilical cord and placental sac attachment. More astounding, it also had spatial encoding characteristics.

http://www.gizapyramid.com/BIO-Benford-Marino.htm


54 posted on 09/28/2008 3:21:29 PM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: Swordmaker

The samples tested in 1988 were not adjacent to the Raes sample. The Ricci sample was and the Vatican still has it.

http://members.aol.com/turin99/radiocarbon-b.htm


56 posted on 09/28/2008 3:29:41 PM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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