[Swordmaker]

Gonella did not have the authority to give anything to Rogers and there is NO evidence that these threads ever existed.

Rogers specifically states in it that Gonella gave him threads from the center of the c-14 test area.

Which is just as I have been telling you.

Pardon me, but I have been misremembering Gonella and confabulating him with the Custodian of the Shroud. My apologies. Professor Luigi Gonella is the current scientific advisor to the Custodian of the Shroud, Cardinal Severino Poletto of Turin. Gonella operates under the Cardinal's authority who operates under the Pope's authority.

September 1995: Cardinal Saldarini issues statement declaring any Shroud samples in circulation other than those taken with official permission for the tests of 1978 as unauthorized. He remarks that 'if such material exists…the Holy See has not given its permission to anybody to keep it and do what they want with it' and he requests those concerned to give the piece back to the Holy See.

There have been changes in things since 1995. It was ten years later and there is a different Cardinal who is the Custodian of the Shroud. His science advisor is Professor Luigi Gonella.

It is true that certain portions of the samples that are in circulation are not currently "authorized" by the Catholic Church, but they do exist and have a chain of custody. The threads you specifically mention are those that were used by Dr. Garza-Valdes who put forward the bio-plastic coating hypothesis which were obtained from Professor Riggi. They do not refer to the threads Rogers received from Gonella, an official source with the Custodian of the Shroud.

[Soliton]

The threads you specifically mention are those that were used by Dr. Garza-Valdes who put forward the bio-plastic coating hypothesis which were obtained from Professor Riggi.

No. The alleged threads that Rogers used ARE NOT the same as the sample used by Dr. Garza-Valdes. Valdez used the Riggi sample. Rogers got his threads from Gonella who he says claimed to have taken them from the center of the C-14 testing area. There is NO record of these threads ever existing prior to Rogers' article and NO chain of custody. Photpmicrographs show whole pieces without missing threads.

Have you figured out why Rogers' statement that he could give an age range for the shroud based on his bogus vanillin test can't be true?

[Soliton]

There have been changes in things since 1995. It was ten years later and there is a different Cardinal who is the Custodian of the Shroud. His science advisor is Professor Luigi Gonella.

NO! Piero Savarino is the Scientific Adviser of the Papal Custodian of the Holy Shroud. Gonella was booted in 1989!