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To: ConservativeMind
The Catholic church believes the Pope, the sinful man he is, is equivalent to Christ.

This is a falsehood. Astonishing! No, we don't; never have, never will.

One of the things that encourages me to remain Catholic is to read falsehoods like this one. Evidently the father of Lies is against us. That makes for unpleasant disagreements, but it also makes it pretty clear where the truth is.

24 posted on 09/22/2008 4:11:09 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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YAWN.... The only part of this “thing” was a reminder about Congressman Miller. Biden comes closer to being “excomuicated” because his Archbishop has refused him communion of course that doesn’t fit the “silly spin” this lefty is making....http://www.theusmat.com


26 posted on 09/22/2008 4:31:21 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Time to recall those. poisonous CFLs and the polticians who mandated them)
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To: Mad Dawg

Okay Mad, what does this mean:

“or refuses submission to the Roman Pontiff...”

We are to submit to Christ, not the “Roman Pontiff.”

It’s astonishing the falsehoods Catholics say!


32 posted on 09/22/2008 5:57:38 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (What's "Price Gouging"? Should government force us to sell to the 15th highest bidder on eBay?)
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To: Mad Dawg; Petronski; A.A. Cunningham; thefrankbaum; magisterium; Coleus
I will apologize for my words with appropriate supporting documentation from the Bible. So, allow me to sit quietly and patiently listen to your Biblical references from the New American Bible (used by the Catholic church) which support the quote from Coleus’ article above, which is (in dealing with excommunication):

“once a person willingly repudiates Christ, embraces a heresy, knowing it to be contrary to divine and Catholic faith, or refuses submission to the Roman Pontiff (or communion with the members of the Church subject to him), by virtue of the law itself they are automatically excommunicated. No ecclesiastical act is necessary and no public notice.”

Specifically, I'm interested in the wording, “...or refuses submission to the Roman Pontiff...”

I fully understand that the words, “bishop,” “elder,” and “overseer” are synonymous. If this is what is used to describe the Pope, that would be very reasonable to me. But please find your own supporting references to what, in my understanding, should only be “Christ.”

63 posted on 09/22/2008 12:02:55 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (What's "Price Gouging"? Should government force us to sell to the 15th highest bidder on eBay?)
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