[ConservativeMind]

No where in the Bible does it state that one is to submit to a Pope or an Apostle.

We are to submit to Christ. The Catholic church believes the Pope, the sinful man he is, is equivalent to Christ.

Not so.

[Mad Dawg]

The Catholic church believes the Pope, the sinful man he is, is equivalent to Christ.

This is a falsehood. Astonishing! No, we don't; never have, never will.

One of the things that encourages me to remain Catholic is to read falsehoods like this one. Evidently the father of Lies is against us. That makes for unpleasant disagreements, but it also makes it pretty clear where the truth is.

[A.A. Cunningham]

The Catholic church believes the Pope, the sinful man he is, is equivalent to Christ.

You need to quit reading Jack Chick, unless of course you enjoy coming across as a fool.

[Petronski]

The Catholic church believes the Pope, the sinful man he is, is equivalent to Christ.

Not so.

You're darn right it isn't so: the Catholic Church does NOT teach or believe this.

[magisterium]

The Catholic church believes the Pope, the sinful man he is, is equivalent to Christ.

Utter hogwash! You've been around this forum plenty long enough to know, from literally thousands of individual postings, that the Catholic Church does not teach this, nor do its members believe this. Deliberate calumny is a sin, you know. How many times can you state something like this, which you know has been strenuously denied over and over, and for which not a shred of unbiased evidence exist, before conscience sets in?

No where in the Bible does it state that one is to submit to a Pope or an Apostle.

Does the Bible use the word "submit"? No. But it does speak of the office of "bishop" (episkopos, in Greek) who have authority. Do you know what "episkopos" means, literally translated? Overseer! St. Paul speaks of his own "authority" on a number of occasions, including several instances in 2 Corinthians chapters 10 and 13 alone. Other Apostles had the same authority. So did the next generation of bishops that they consecrated. Read 2 Timothy chapter 4 in this light. You will see that the bishops of the early Church had authority over the rest, and that the Church was, therefore, hierarchical in its nature from the beginning.

But you really need to lose this "Catholics think the Pope is equivalent to Christ" bit. It does not become you, and more people than you seem to know see the argument as simply ridiculous.

[pray4liberty]

We are to submit to Christ. The Catholic church believes the Pope, the sinful man he is, is equivalent to Christ.

I was brought up in the Catholic Church and taught that the Pope, sinful man that he is, is not equivalent to Christ, but is Christ's servant and Vicar on earth.