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The Man - The Franciscan - The Priest
The Mystic - The Saint - Multimedia - EWTN Coverage
Posted on 09/18/2008 10:37:17 PM PDT by Salvation
One who studies the scripture knows that Satan and his minions are perfectly capable of performing miracles...
1Sa 16:7 But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.
The fact is, no one knows...And that goes for any and all Saints who have passed on...I wouldn't pray to any of them...
St. Pio wrestles with the devil......and won. You need to read his story.
THE HOLY WOUNDS OF CHRIST & Padre Pio's Secret: His Shoulder Wound [Devotional]
Popular Italian Catholic saint exhumed 40 years on (Padre Pio's body in fair condition)
Letter 33 - Padre Pio of Pietrelcina, 16 November 1914.
Padre Pio and the Mother Co-redemptrix(CATHOLIC CAUCUS)
Saint Padre Pio letters #29Correspondence with Raffaelina Cerase
Message, St. Padre Pio During Mass
Padre Pio and the Guardian Angel
Spiritual Counsels from Saint Padre Pio
What Does It Means To Be Canonized.(Padre Pio example)
Feast of St. Pio this FRIDAY! (Padre Pio - Pray for Texas!)
Padre Pio's Love for the Blessed Mother
St. Padre Pio
Padre Pio's Shrine, as the Architect Sees It - Renzo Piano Talks about Church, San Giovanni Rotondo
Padre Pio Aid Says Saint Accepted New Mass
Padre Pio: on Spirituality, Vatican II and the Novus Ordo Missae
Remarkable Transformation: Padre Pio
Cardinal Schotte (Head of the Synod of Bishops) and his view on Dallas; Rose petals for Padre Pio
Saint Padre Pio's Body Not Found in His Tomb?
Padre Pio Now A Saint - Wrestled With Devil, Predicted Future
Padre Pio Wrestled with Devil, Predicted Future
Pope Bestows Sainthood on Padre Pio
PADRE PIO DA PIETRELCINA
Padre Pio to be Canonized This June
St. Pio Of Pietrelcina, 1887-1968
His Friends Remember Padre Pio
St. Padre Pio
St. Pio Of Pietrelcina, 1887-1968
Padre Pio: on Spirituality, Vatican II and the Novus Ordo Missae
Padre Pio Now A Saint - Wrestled With Devil, Predicted Future
Padre Pio Wrestled with Devil, Predicted Future
Pope Bestows Sainthood on Padre Pio
Remarkable Transformation: Padre Pio
His Friends Remember Padre Pio
PADRE PIO DA PIETRELCINA
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Many people asked Padre Pio to pray for them while he was alive.
Catholics ask a saint to pray for them after they are a saint.
Basically it’s the same thing. Just asking someone to pray for you. The interesting thing, however, is that the saint has God’s ear, whereas, sometimes as humans, we don’t. (Or we don’t ask in the right way.)
The Early Church Fathers on Intercession of the Saints - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
There are those who enjoy muddying the distinction between the words “to” and “for us”.
Padre Pio continues to pray for us today.
What a wonderful portrait. He looks so kind.
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:) Please, by all means take your time in exploring and asking questions, seeking answers. To try to do it all at once is very overwhelming. It's like anything else worth doing - slow, steady and right.
My questions are, does one pray to God asking that Padre Pio will hear the prayers and help one make spiritual progress? Or does one pray (as I was taught) just to God? Do we know padre Pio can hear the prayers now that he is dead? Can he intercede with the Lord? Does anyone have experience of this?
The most important question here is is Padre Pio dead. According to Church teaching, no spirit ever dies. His spirit lives as part of the communion of saints. When one prays (meaning "to ask") to a saint, the ask, if you will, is for intercession by way of prayer to the Father that this or that may be so. That goes to praying to anyone who has gone before us. They are all part of the communion of saints and as such have not died. When it comes to canonized Saints - before one is canonized there is always a miracle confirmed by the Church. The vast majority are medical, but there are the occasional ones like St. Martin de Porres which was a grain bin filling. When miracles happen in a person's name, we say they are with God and are recognized as being so. Praying to the saints is somewhat like asking a mentor for help - praying that a heart may be opened, praying that one may love Christ as the saint did, etc. They will always pray for you. Believe me, there are some great saints who are amazingly generous in this way (thank you, St. Cecilia).
I think what’s holding me up on this point is that I don’t want to be in a position of demanding things of the Lord or nagging Him for things I want that He is not otherwise inclined to grant in response to prayers directed just at Him, whether those things are spiritual gifts or material ones. I’m afraid that if I ask a saint to help out, it’s a way of saying “Padre Pio, God didn’t do what I want, can you talk to Him for me? Persuade Him?”
Ahh. God's ways are not our ways. That's part of the rub of being human. I think the best way to think about "what to pray for" is to ask yourself, Is it for the good of the Kingdom and how does this serve God. The way to ask is, "Father, if it be your will...." What is God's will? My favorite line about that comes from Mother Angelica who founded EWTN, "Honey, if it's happening, it God's will." God answers prayer and not always in the way we want Him to. My life in the last 4-5 years is one example after another of learning how to do God's will. The major thing to remember is TRUST. If you honestly trust God, you will not be steered wrong.
I hope this helps. Reading up on people like Padre Pio is a really good way to begin to understand the power of prayer and suffering in the name of Christ. Seriously, anyone with Stigmata can be trusted, IMO.
Padre Pio was only canonized a few years ago, but already I rank him among the great post-Biblical Saints of the Church-—with St. Francis, St. Anthony, St. Basil, St. Theresa of Avila and so many others.
Thank you all for your help. I will continue to read, study, and pray. These things take time.
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Yes. This forum is a wonderful resource if one can ignore some of the petty nonsense. A sense of humour helps, too. :)
SAINTS AND INTERCESSORY PRAYER
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/saints.html#tradition-I
May Our Lord Bless you in your search for truth
Thank you for the wonderful thread!
**There are those who enjoy muddying the distinction between the words “to” and “for us”.**
Honesty reigns here! LOL!
Glad you are enjoying it. So many links. Far too much to post!
stop showing biblical references that backup the catholic teaching, that just confuses the issue for our mistakenly separated brethern....</s>
Apparently St. Pio has recently been exhumed and he has been found to be incorruptable.
Here is a blogspot with I assume a recent photo.
http://momentsofinspirationsaints.blogspot.com/2008/05/st-padre-pio-exhumed.html
Minor quibble - he is incorrupt and one of the incorruptables.
wow, he joins some pretty big names.
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