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To: Lilllabettt

talking to you reminds me of the witches i used to debate on aol.. no matter what i said, it was twisted around to sound completely different than what was stated....

Heaven itself is an undisputed reality. it is your assumption about the specifics in Heaven that is the disputed fantasy.

what any believer knows about the Body of Christ is from Scripture & nothing inherent therein supports your fantasy of physically dead believers having omnipresence or omniscience & being able to hear your prayers in Heaven.

you can ask any friend standing next to you for intercession. but then they grow old & die, & their body is buried in the local cemetery. 2000 years later millions of catholics calling on that same person is kosher to you ???
this is just another reason why i disagree with so much catholic doctrine.

1 Tim 6:15
He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16 who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.

Jesus is Lord


117 posted on 09/07/2008 3:11:48 PM PDT by Psalm_2 (Break up your fallow ground, For it is time to seek the LORD Until He comes..Hos10:12)
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To: Psalm_2; Lilllabettt

“talking to you reminds me of the witches i used to debate on aol.. no matter what i said, it was twisted around to sound completely different than what was stated....”

How dare you compare a baptized Christian woman to a witch!

What a scandal.


120 posted on 09/07/2008 3:18:35 PM PDT by OpusatFR (As we bicker about faith, the faithful are witnesses by their martyrdom.)
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To: Psalm_2
what any believer knows about the Body of Christ is from Scripture & nothing inherent therein supports your fantasy of physically dead believers having omnipresence or omniscience & being able to hear your prayers in Heaven.

Is it the "official" Protestant stand that anyone who is given the grace to be able to do something a Protestant can't currently do is thereby shown to be omnipotent and/or omniscient? Is there no distinction between greater power and all power or between greater knowledge and all knowledge? It seems as if you all have a scale which goes sort of like
Zero power (and then increments or amounts of power up to) the amount of power I have (and then with no interval at all) ALL power. I cannot otherwise make sense of the repetition of the false claim that we attribute omnipotence and omniscience to the saints in heaven.

what any believer knows about the Body of Christ is from Scripture

That's not clear. It's one point of view, a relatively recent one.

Jesus himself addresses the question of those who have died. And as I said, we have a fundamentally different concept of time from yours. You obviously mean your "kosher" question to be sort of rhetorically self-answering. That's fine. But I read it and think and go, "Yeah, that's kosher. Why not?"

Jesus is indeed Lord. The Lord is generous and gracious.

133 posted on 09/07/2008 4:28:29 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Whats-is-name and Palin in November!)
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