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To: PAR35
I consider Wesley more of a Methodist

He was an Anglican

In Wesley's lifetime, ALL Methodists were Anglicans--except in America, where the Methodist Episcopal Church was a separate body following Wesley's consecration of Dr Thomas Coke and Rev Francis Asbury as the first two Methodist Episcopal bishops.

Further, in the sense that the previous poster was using the term, he meant Methodist as opposed to Arminian/Calvinist. Another term for it is Wesleyan-Arminianism (or High Arminianism), which is, to quote Wesley, "a hair's breadth from Calvinism."

43 posted on 08/21/2008 5:53:37 PM PDT by The Grammarian
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To: The Grammarian; PAR35; Gamecock
Only Wesley would say Arminianism is a "hair's breadth from Calvinism."

It's a "hair's breadth" from Rome.

Either God elects based on His good pleasure alone and not on any good works men have done/might do, or men get themselves elected by their own good efforts and pious intentions.

Salvation is by free and unmerited grace through faith in Christ, and that is not of ourselves. It is a gift from God to whom He will.

Wesley was an excellent preacher and a devout Christian, but he contributed to the eventual erosion of men's understanding of God's sovereignty, instead replacing it with God's passivity and ultimate ineptitude. I prefer George Whitefield.

WHITEFIELD TO WESLEY

64 posted on 08/22/2008 1:34:56 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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