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To: Lexinom
Oh, what a merciful and faithful Father He is, that we are not utterly consumed in His just wrath!

I think far more highly of God than you, because I trust His word.

"The Bible does not say For God so loved the elect, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life." And so when I read "God is not willing that any should perish" in II Peter 3:9, I take it to mean that, quite literally, God does not want anyone going to hell.

Every verse Calvinists use in their arguments is that God is promising ONLY their self-described 'elect'.

35 posted on 08/21/2008 4:40:16 PM PDT by xJones
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To: xJones
Yes, and furthermore, in Ezekiel 33:10 we read:

Say unto them, [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

So you see that no one is arguing that God takes pleasure in the death of the wicked, yet he hates the worker of iniquity who turns not. Yet God cannot deny Himself and His attributes. He is just. He is merciful. He is holy. How can His justice be reconiciled with his mercy?

If He were to send His Son to die for sin with the hypothetical possibility, according to free-will reasoning, that not a single person would be saved, then of what value is such an ineffectual atonement?

No, my friend, it is God who saves; nothing is too hard for Him.

As far as election, it is a repugnant notion to the natural man, yes, ingrained as we are with the original sin of pride ("You will be like God, knowing good from evil.").

There's that one, little tiny piece that we don't want to give to God. We don't trust Him when it comes to our eternal destiny. We think we know better. My friend, do not trust your deceitful heart. Consider the brevity of man's days, how he is like a mist (Ps. 144). Put your trust in Jesus, as your heavenly shepherd! Ask Him to conquer your proud heart and till the hard soil, to keep you from the sin of the Pharisees (Is. 58:3). He is faithful and true!

37 posted on 08/21/2008 5:07:42 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: xJones
I think far more highly of God than you, because I trust His word.

"The Bible does not say For God so loved the elect, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life." And so when I read "God is not willing that any should perish" in II Peter 3:9, I take it to mean that, quite literally, God does not want anyone going to hell.

Every verse Calvinists use in their arguments is that God is promising ONLY their self-described 'elect'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=124vIQMRRHI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T5nJcnJEfw

 

61 posted on 08/22/2008 12:54:52 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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