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The Global Ambition of Rick Warren
Time ^ | Aug. 07, 2008 | DAVID VAN BIEMA

Posted on 08/08/2008 6:13:02 AM PDT by Gamecock

If Warren is not quite today's Graham, who presided as "America's pastor" back when the U.S. affected a kind of Protestant civil religion, he is unquestionably the U.S.'s most influential and highest-profile churchman. He is a natural leader, a pathological schmoozer, insatiably curious and often the smartest person in the room.

A shift away from "sin issues" — like abortion and gay marriage — is reflected in Warren's approach to his coming sit-downs with the candidates. He says he is more interested in questions that he feels are "uniting," such as "poverty, HIV/AIDS, climate change and human rights," and still more in civics-class topics like the candidates' understanding of the role of the Constitution. There will be no "Christian religion test," Warren insists. "I want what's good for everybody, not just what's good for me. Who's the best for the nation right now?"

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1 posted on 08/08/2008 6:13:03 AM PDT by Gamecock
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often the smartest person in the room

Perhaps he needs to choose rooms better...

2 posted on 08/08/2008 6:14:10 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, "Am I good enough to be a Christian?" rather "Am I good enough not to be?")
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To: Gamecock
He says he is more interested in questions that he feels are "uniting," such as "poverty, HIV/AIDS, climate change and human rights,"

Climate change is "uniting?" I think NOT!

3 posted on 08/08/2008 6:16:40 AM PDT by JaguarXKE
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4 posted on 08/08/2008 6:17:00 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, "Am I good enough to be a Christian?" rather "Am I good enough not to be?")
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5 posted on 08/08/2008 6:17:29 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Gamecock

Beware of wolves in sheeps’ clothing.


6 posted on 08/08/2008 6:21:24 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: JaguarXKE

Anytime a Christian minister gets this type of favorable publicity from the mainsteam media, it’s time to question whether he’s really a Christian minister.


7 posted on 08/08/2008 6:23:12 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: Gamecock

Amen!


8 posted on 08/08/2008 6:27:00 AM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: ravingnutter

that’s not nice!


9 posted on 08/08/2008 6:27:22 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: puroresu

“Beware of wolves in sheeps’ clothing.”

Seems like lately, he’s been shedding his sheepskin and howling at the moon.


10 posted on 08/08/2008 6:27:33 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Old, pale and stale - McCain in 2008! but we're only one vote away from losing the 2nd amendment...)
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To: ravingnutter

I don’t know that I’d go quite that far, but Warren troubles me. All things to all people. The Christian walk is not about “uniting” people.


11 posted on 08/08/2008 6:34:36 AM PDT by Dukes Travels
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To: Gamecock

He says he is more interested in questions that he feels are “uniting,” such as “poverty, HIV/AIDS, climate change and human rights,”

Poverty by his standards, and since when is venereal disease uniting?? climate change is just that—climate is not a constant but a variable meaning subject to change. I agree with human rights endowed by our creator.


12 posted on 08/08/2008 6:36:51 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: Gamecock

Messiah Complex


13 posted on 08/08/2008 6:40:11 AM PDT by Prussian Koenig
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To: Dukes Travels

Exactly! Seems like he doesn’t want to rock the boat - gotta have everyone love me. Be in this world but not of it. He should be preaching the Kingdom of God like we were commanded.

He speaks about the global warming and not about abortion. Amazing!


14 posted on 08/08/2008 6:40:18 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Gamecock

It doesn’t take much to impress this Time writer, does it? I have seen Warren speak on various shows, and he strikes me as low wattage, if you know what I mean. Stephen Colbert is one in particular who got the best of him, and most of us here already know how weak his books and interpretations of the Bible are.

A modern-day equivalent of the Apostle Paul would make short work of this “smartest person in the room.”


15 posted on 08/08/2008 6:44:57 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Gamecock

“Woe to you when all men speak well of you, for that is how their fathers treated the false prophets.” Luke 6:26


16 posted on 08/08/2008 6:47:27 AM PDT by keithtoo (Why aren't the Republicans running a presidential candidate this year?)
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To: Prussian Koenig

I,m trying to save the planet! Now,where did I hear that?


17 posted on 08/08/2008 6:48:23 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: keithtoo
Good Scripture reference. Warren is liked by the secular media for just the wrong reasons. He's pandering to them, and it certainly looks like he is no longer faithfully preaching the need to repent and trust Christ to do what we cannot do for ourselves.

If he wants to unite with pagans, he's going about it the right way. But he's dividing himself from Christians by choosing to let the unsaved slide into Hell without giving them the good news that the can be reconciled with God if they would but repent.

18 posted on 08/08/2008 6:55:29 AM PDT by Liberty1970
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To: Gamecock
he is unquestionably the U.S.'s most influential and highest-profile churchman

I am glad that they didn't say "pastor".

A shift away from "sin issues"...

Yep...unfortunately, a shift away from sin is a shift away from biblical Christianity. After all, Christ did go to the cross to pay the price for our SIN issues....and people are currently on their way to hell because of their SIN issues. Given that, who cares if you temporarily cure poverty, disease, illiteracy, etc...

and those cured spend eternity in hell?

It is good to see the curtain getting pulled back more and more to reveal what Warren really is about.

19 posted on 08/08/2008 7:12:29 AM PDT by pby
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A modern-day equivalent of the Apostle Paul would make short work of this “smartest person in the room.”

Well said.

20 posted on 08/08/2008 7:14:11 AM PDT by pby
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