[Skooz]

No

[Grunthor]

The essence of the article and the opinion of the scholars quoted is that somehow, the credibility of Christianity is at stake, on the grounds that this pre-Christian inscription, also known in scholastic circles as “Gabriel’s Revelation”, robs Christianity of its “uniqueness” and novelty.

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Only one Savior gonna get you to Heaven. I’d say that’s pretty darned unique!

[brytlea]

Not any more than all of the prophesies in the Bible which point to His coming do. I suppose if someone were predisposed not to believe, they will see this as proof it’s made up, but the only thing I can do for them is pray for the scales to fall from their eyes.

susie

[Soliton]

Christians won’t believe this proves anything. Of Course, if had been later and it had Joshua on it, they would claim it as absolute proof of Jesus’ existence.

[Brian S. Fitzgerald]

Interesting. Christianity was creating quite a stir and
more than a few people were witneses to the events.

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

Does the "Jesus Stone" Hurt Christianity

No, why do they ask?

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

also known in scholastic circles as “Gabriel’s Revelation”, robs Christianity of its “uniqueness” and novelty.

What the "Jesus stone" does is shows that there were Jews in the 1st century BC who were expecting a Messiah to come who would die for the nation and rise in three days. Which is an idea they would have gotten from the Hebrew Scriptures. The same place that the first Christians (who were Jews) go it from.

[Dr. Sivana]

Of course the prophecies were known. That’s why Pilate was asked to post a guard at the tomb. There must be all sorts of prophecies (that were actually true) known to Jew and Gentile alike. Whywas Herod so worked up over “his” star? These scholars, who take it as a given that the supernatural does not mingle with affairs here, are going to deconstruct themselves out of existence.

[Always Right]

Dr. Israel Knohl, a Bible professor at Hebrew University in Jerusalem states it as thus: “Resurrection after three days becomes a motif developed before Jesus, which runs contrary to nearly all scholarship.

LOL, I have no idea what 'scholarship' they are talking about, but it doesn't contradict the Bible which prophesied Jesus's coming all along.

[nmh]

No, it’s just stupid.

[onlylewis]

If you have read the Bible you know that many people, before the days of the New Testament and Jesus, wrote about the future of a coming messiah (not obama). Claiming that these writings disprove Jesus is just plain wrong and misleading.

[nmh]

No, it’s just stupid.

My apology.

I read glanced over this too fast.

It’s not stupid. It’s interesting.

[kailbo]

Can someone post some Old Testament prophecies that would suggest a messiah would raise from the dead after 3 days?

Thanks in advance.

[skeeter]

Up to this point, it has been fairly easy to point to a several texts from the Old Testament to show that the Messiah’s suffering was foretold by the prophets. However, it has not been so easy to show from any of those texts if one wanted to clearly demonstrate that there were predictions that the Messiah was going to rise after three days. (Some Christians point to Hosea 6:1-4 as a proof text, even though it does not explicitly say anything about a Messiah. Others say Jonah’s internment in the whale for three days is a foreshadowing of Jesus’ time in the tomb).

Mark 14:58. New testament, I know, but it is a rather specific prediction.

[pgkdan]

This really a stupid, stupid question. Does the Book of Isaiah hurt Christianity?

[stop_fascism]

Dr. Israel Knohl, a Bible professor at Hebrew University in Jerusalem states it as thus: “Resurrection after three days becomes a motif developed before Jesus, which runs contrary to nearly all scholarship. What happens in the New Testament was adopted by Jesus and his followers based on an earlier messiah story.” Another scholar commenting on the stone says that it “shakes the very core of Christianity”.

A truly weird take. If I placed a bet that the Giants would win last year's Superbowl, after they won, could the Bookie fail to pay on the grounds that the bet was part of the Football Betting Tradition, and actually proof that the Giants didn't win the Superbowl? I don't think so.

Rather, this is another indication that Jesus was the expected Messiah, and that the Jews (a stiff necked people) are mistaken in rejecting him.

After 2000 years of arguing that Jesus as Messiah was against Jewsih tradition, and therefor false, Knowl now wants to argue that the Mesiah as prince of peace, is part of Jewish tradition, therefor the claim for Jesus is false. Talk about wanting to have it both ways!

[mnehring]

Since I first heard about this, I have trouble seeing how this is, in any way, a challenge to Christianity. After all, the Old Testament is full of prophecies and predictions of the Messiah, why would it be a challenge that a non-Biblical source also have that? Of course it was a concept at the time, it was in the Sefer Torah.

[puroresu]

The fact that so many leftists seek to discredit Christianity indicates to me that it must be true. I work around leftists every day. If I were to tell them I'm a follower of some aboriginal animist faith, they'd reply that while they're not a believer themselves, they aren't bothered by my beliefs and would adopt a “live and let live” attitude. But tell these same people you're a Christian and you'll get a finger-wagging lecture on how stupid Christianity is, how “unhistorical” the Bible is, how “experts” have “proven” that Jesus was just some philosopher dude who never was the Son of God.

We see this every day. You'll never see the New York Times run an article questioning the status of Mohammed. You'll never see some hippie leftist smirk that the Chinese are helping to modernize Tibet by bouncing the Dalai Lama and his “superstition” out of there. You'll never see Dan Brown or Ron Howard produce a book or film questioning the truth of Islam and the Koran.

The left really zeroes in to destroy anything that's true, and their hostility to Christianity in quite telling.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

Christianity was robbed of its "uniquenes" long before the Jesus Stone.

Osiris was not only the redeemer and merciful judge of the dead in the afterlife, but also the underworld agency that granted all life, including sprouting vegetation and the fertile flooding of the Nile River. The Kings of Egypt were associated with Osiris in death — as Osiris rose from the dead they would, in union with him, inherit eternal life through a process of imitative magic.

Osiris (Greek language, also Usiris; the Egyptian language name is variously transliterated Asar, Aser, Ausar, Ausir, Wesir, or Ausare) was the Egyptian god of life, death, and fertility.

Osiris is one of the oldest gods for whom records have been found; one of the oldest known attestations of his name is on the Palermo Stone of around 2500 BC. He was widely worshipped until the suppression of paganism by the early Catholic church under Theodosius I[1]. The information we have on the myths of Osiris is derived from allusions contained in the Pyramid Texts (ca. 2400 BC), later New Kingdom source documents such as the Shabaka Stone and the Contending of Horus and Seth, and much later, in narrative style from the writings of Greek authors including Plutarch[2] and Diodorus Siculus.[3]

[SunkenCiv]

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