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To: NYer
"1Timothy 3:15 the reality,

"If I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth."

The house referred to in Psalms 127:1 is explained here. Notice the word used in this verse is 'church' not 'churches'.

Also note that the Bible says it is the Church which is the pillar and foundation of the truth."

Odd, I thought the Bible says that God is the pillar and foundation of the truth.

5 posted on 08/03/2008 12:22:17 PM PDT by chs68
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To: chs68
Odd, I thought the Bible says that God is the pillar and foundation of the truth.

I have asked protestants at least 100 times to show me a verse in the Bible that shows this and I have yet to get a single legitimate, intelligent response

6 posted on 08/03/2008 1:40:01 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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Odd, I thought the Bible says that God is the pillar and foundation of the truth.

According to the Bible Itself, the Church is the "pillar of truth" (1 Timothy 3:15), not the Bible.  Individual interpretation of Scripture was not practiced by the early Christians or the Jews. (Acts 8:29-35).  The assertion that individuals can correctly interpret Scripture is also false.  Even the "founder" of Sola Scriptura (Martin Luther), near the end of his life, was afraid that "any milkmaid who could read" would found a new Christian denomination based on his or her "interpretation" of the Bible. Hence, the existence of 25,000+ Christian Churches that all claiming to be authentic in their teachings. If the Bible was to be the sole authority of the Church, shouldn't the Founder, Jesus Christ, have written down His Own teachings?  Shouldn't He have at least stated something similar to the following:  "the written works of My disciples will be the authority upon which My Church is based?" Since the Gospels are the heart of the New Testament, please show me the verse(s) where He commanded anyone to write them. Please show me where the Bible says that it alone is the sole authority.

What did Martin Luther, the Protestant Reformer, state about the Bible?  In his "Commentary On St. John," he stated the following:  "We are compelled to concede to the Papists that they have the Word of God, that we have received It from them, and that without them we should have no knowledge of It at all."  Regardless of what you may think or say, according to secular, objective historians, the Catholic Church alone preserved Sacred Scripture throughout the persecution of the Roman Empire and during the Dark Ages.  All non-Catholic Christian denominations owe the existence of the Bible to the Catholic Church alone.  Why did God choose the Catholic Church to preserve Scripture if It is not His Church?

12 posted on 08/03/2008 3:08:30 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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