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1 posted on 07/29/2008 3:37:24 PM PDT by Salvation
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2 posted on 07/29/2008 3:40:31 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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4 posted on 07/29/2008 3:44:00 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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A question for clarification: the test outlined, 2 and 3 are certainly taught definitively and infallibly, but 1 isn't necessarily infallible...is it? Humanae Vitae was not ex cathedra, nor has contraception been defined by a Council. That leaves the whole of the bishops teaching in unison as the source of infallibility, and I'm not sure that is the case.

If I'm correct, doesn't that make the statement "A faithful Catholic cannot reject those teachings" incorrect? It requires religious submission if it is a definitive teaching that is fallible. Thus, although the standard is high (very, very, very high), you can reject that teaching.

Not trying to stir the pot (I think I've proven my bona fides on this forum already), but, in an article about Catholic Orthodoxy, we should try and be as correct as possible, without letting our own perspective in. And maybe I'm nuts and it is an infallible teaching - very possible ;-)

5 posted on 07/29/2008 3:54:09 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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This is where I disagree with a some other Catholics. For me the Person and Work of Christ (Christology) Is the absolute beginning point of understanding the Church it is ‘The Truth’ upon which all else is. From there as your starting point you can expand and talk about sin and therefore the need for the Sacrifice of Jesus and then explain about the Eucharist etc.

There are many moral people who do not believe in Christ or the Church.

Mel


9 posted on 07/29/2008 5:55:14 PM PDT by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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