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Catholics to Pope: Lift the Birth Control Ban
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| July 25, 2008
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Posted on 07/25/2008 1:49:26 PM PDT by kellynla
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posted on
07/25/2008 1:49:27 PM PDT
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kellynla
To: Salvation; narses; NYer; A.A. Cunningham
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posted on
07/25/2008 1:50:06 PM PDT
by
kellynla
(Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
To: kellynla
By the same logis that entitles these people to be called Catholic, I can claim to be the long lost grandson of Peter the Great.
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posted on
07/25/2008 1:53:46 PM PDT
by
Mr. Lucky
To: kellynla
“Non-Catholics to Pope ...”
What idiocy.
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posted on
07/25/2008 1:56:50 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(Tax-chick's House of Herpets. Support your local reptile vet!)
To: kellynla
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posted on
07/25/2008 2:00:31 PM PDT
by
scory
To: kellynla
The title is incorrect. It should read, “Alleged Catholics...”
To: kellynla
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posted on
07/25/2008 2:34:28 PM PDT
by
markomalley
(Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
To: kellynla
Sounds to me like these dissident Catholic groups are advocating the use of birth control that is contrary to the Churchs teaching and position mostly about sex outside of marriage. In a monogamous marriage, the risk of HIV is pretty negligible. If a Catholic is having sex with multiple partners, heterosexual or homosexual, protected or unprotected sex, then they are already in violation of their faith. So to me this is a bit of a non sequitur.
On the other hand, I think there are legitimate reasons for some married, monogamous and faithful Catholic couples to use some methods of birth control under some circumstances and as I understand, the Church does make some allowances for it.
For instance, after my sister in law gave birth to her third child after her third emergency c-section and several late term miscarriages in between and her last pregnancy being particularly difficult and fraught with dangerous complications, her doctors told her that another pregnancy would be very dangerous and probably life threatening. After my brother and sister in law consulted with their priest, and with a letter from her doctors stating the dangers of another pregnancy she was given a dispensation to have a tubaligation.
As I understand, the Churchs position in this case supported the surgery because of her medical condition and the fact that she was a young mother of three young children and she and her husband were in good stead in the sacraments and not seeking to have the surgery for selfish or unreasonable reasons.
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posted on
07/25/2008 2:36:45 PM PDT
by
Caramelgal
(Just a lump of organized protoplasm - braying at the stars :),)
To: Caramelgal
“Sounds to me like...” CINO’s
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posted on
07/25/2008 3:08:24 PM PDT
by
kellynla
(Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
To: kellynla
I don’t know what CINO’s means. Would you care to explain?
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posted on
07/25/2008 3:10:13 PM PDT
by
Caramelgal
(Just a lump of organized protoplasm - braying at the stars :),)
To: Caramelgal
That is correct and my understanding as well.
The way my rector explained it to me is that medical reasons that require a tubal ligation, hysterectomy, or hormone treatment (endometriosis, dysmenorrhea, etc.) are o.k., so long as the couple doesn't *intend* to avoid conception. In other words, the infertility is a 'secondary effect'.
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posted on
07/25/2008 3:15:03 PM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
(Ministrix of ye Chase, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
To: kellynla
Catholics For Choice are not Catholic.
And 50 well what else can the Pope do but change the teaching. Heck why not conduct all Church teaching by poll? I bet the ban on adultry would be out the door. And those priests who violated church teaching by sexually abusing children and adolescents probably would appreciate a few adjustments to teachings on sexual morality.
No doubt you could get five Dignity members to send letters advocating homosexual relationships between adult males and teen boys provided it was consensual.
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posted on
07/25/2008 3:18:08 PM PDT
by
lastchance
(Hug your babies.)
To: Caramelgal
I dont know what CINOs means. Catholic in Name Only . . . formed on the model of RINO --Republican in Name Only.
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posted on
07/25/2008 3:24:50 PM PDT
by
maryz
To: maryz
So you are implying that my very devout and very traditional Catholic sister in law and my brother are CINO’s?
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posted on
07/25/2008 3:31:13 PM PDT
by
Caramelgal
(Just a lump of organized protoplasm - braying at the stars :),)
To: Caramelgal
So you are implying that my very devout and very traditional Catholic sister in law and my brother are CINOs? I don't think they're implying that at all.
To: Caramelgal
Me? I was just telling you what CINO meant. I never connected it with the earlier post that used it — which wasn’t by me!
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posted on
07/25/2008 3:51:29 PM PDT
by
maryz
To: kellynla
God may love the dissidents and keep inviting them back into the fold, but I doubt that Pope Benedict will listen to them.
**Catholics to Pope: Lift the Birth Control Ban **
My answer: NO! Contraception was the beginning of the abortion we see now.
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posted on
07/25/2008 7:46:13 PM PDT
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: kellynla
Ah, religion by petition.
I’ve got a tip for them, there are many thousands of denominations who believe in contraception, join them.
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posted on
07/25/2008 8:14:33 PM PDT
by
tiki
(True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
To: AnAmericanMother
The way my rector explained it to me is that medical reasons that require a tubal ligation There's no medical indication for a tubal ligation except to prevent pregnancy. It's never permitted.
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posted on
07/25/2008 8:26:32 PM PDT
by
Campion
To: Caramelgal
her doctors told her that another pregnancy would be very dangerous and probably life threatening. After my brother and sister in law consulted with their priest, and with a letter from her doctors stating the dangers of another pregnancy she was given a "dispensation" to have a tubaligation. That priest needs to go back to seminary and get a refresher course in moral theology, because I don't think it "took" the first time.
Unfortunately, there's plenty like him.
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posted on
07/25/2008 8:36:14 PM PDT
by
Campion
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