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1 posted on 07/25/2008 1:49:27 PM PDT by kellynla
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2 posted on 07/25/2008 1:50:06 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

By the same logis that entitles these people to be called Catholic, I can claim to be the long lost grandson of Peter the Great.


3 posted on 07/25/2008 1:53:46 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: kellynla

“Non-Catholics to Pope ...”

What idiocy.


4 posted on 07/25/2008 1:56:50 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Tax-chick's House of Herpets. Support your local reptile vet!)
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To: kellynla

Here is a very interesting essay about Humanae Vitae published for the 40th anniversary.

http://www.firstthings.com/article.php3?id_article=6262


5 posted on 07/25/2008 2:00:31 PM PDT by scory
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To: kellynla

The title is incorrect. It should read, “Alleged Catholics...”


6 posted on 07/25/2008 2:34:01 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: kellynla
Please see the following press release: [Cath Caucus] Catholics Asked to Tell Their Bishops to End Ban on Contraception (barf alert).
7 posted on 07/25/2008 2:34:28 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: kellynla
Sounds to me like these “dissident Catholic groups” are advocating the use of birth control that is contrary to the Church’s teaching and position mostly about sex outside of marriage. In a monogamous marriage, the risk of HIV is pretty negligible. If a Catholic is having sex with multiple partners, heterosexual or homosexual, protected or unprotected sex, then they are already in violation of their faith. So to me this is a bit of a non sequitur.

On the other hand, I think there are legitimate reasons for some married, monogamous and faithful Catholic couples to use some methods of birth control under some circumstances and as I understand, the Church does make some allowances for it.

For instance, after my sister in law gave birth to her third child after her third emergency c-section and several late term miscarriages in between and her last pregnancy being particularly difficult and fraught with dangerous complications, her doctors told her that another pregnancy would be very dangerous and probably life threatening. After my brother and sister in law consulted with their priest, and with a letter from her doctors stating the dangers of another pregnancy she was given a “dispensation” to have a tubaligation.

As I understand, the Church’s position in this case supported the surgery because of her medical condition and the fact that she was a young mother of three young children and she and her husband were in good stead in the sacraments and not seeking to have the surgery for selfish or unreasonable reasons.
8 posted on 07/25/2008 2:36:45 PM PDT by Caramelgal (Just a lump of organized protoplasm - braying at the stars :),)
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To: kellynla

Catholics For Choice are not Catholic.

And 50 well what else can the Pope do but change the teaching. Heck why not conduct all Church teaching by poll? I bet the ban on adultry would be out the door. And those priests who violated church teaching by sexually abusing children and adolescents probably would appreciate a few adjustments to teachings on sexual morality.
No doubt you could get five Dignity members to send letters advocating homosexual relationships between adult males and teen boys provided it was consensual.


12 posted on 07/25/2008 3:18:08 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: kellynla

God may love the dissidents and keep inviting them back into the fold, but I doubt that Pope Benedict will listen to them.

**Catholics to Pope: Lift the Birth Control Ban **

My answer: NO! Contraception was the beginning of the abortion we see now.


17 posted on 07/25/2008 7:46:13 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: kellynla

Ah, religion by petition.

I’ve got a tip for them, there are many thousands of denominations who believe in contraception, join them.


18 posted on 07/25/2008 8:14:33 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: kellynla

If I recall correctly, Catholics for Choice was one of the groups that, not too long ago, agitated for more of the same, and threatened to flood the Vatican with “at least one million” signed petitions. They got about 15,000. Worldwide!

Yawn.


30 posted on 07/26/2008 7:02:51 PM PDT by magisterium
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