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To: CTK YKC

Why are they trolls...because they have different opinions than you do? Where have I heard that before...lol


12 posted on 07/24/2008 6:34:16 AM PDT by Snurple
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To: Snurple

They’re trolls because they are poor students of Scripture and history and they make ignorant, drive-by posts.


13 posted on 07/24/2008 7:10:06 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Snurple
According to church rules, a penitent can seek the indulgence for himself or a deceased person by going to confession, receiving communion, distancing himself from sinfulness, praying for the pope's intentions...

Eph. 2:4-10

But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.

For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.

God's Word is clear - we are not saved by works. Good works are an effect of our salvation, not a cause. It is folly to think we can earn salvation through sporadic good works in a sea of our sinful nature.

16 posted on 07/24/2008 7:18:09 AM PDT by Liberty1970
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I know that my view may be uninformed in the eyes of my Catholic friends, but why can’t I simply trust in what Paul says in Romans 5:1, “Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ”?

Doesn’t that verse tell us that forgiveness is through Christ, and it isn’t a matter of “damage control” on the part of the believer? Don’t get me wrong; I fully believe that the believer will DESIRE to do those things that please the Lord. I guess it comes down to the old debate between justification and sanctification and how those things occur in the life of a Christian.


18 posted on 07/24/2008 7:18:48 AM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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