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Is Anti-Catholicism Dead? (Ques. Proposed by NY Times)
NY Times City Room Blog ^ | 7/23/2008 | Sewell Chan

Posted on 07/23/2008 2:47:21 PM PDT by Pyro7480

When Gov. Alfred E. Smith ran for president in 1928, his candidacy was derailed in large part by anti-Catholic prejudice. It has been nearly 48 years since John F. Kennedy became the first (and so far only) Roman Catholic president, but experts say that anti-Catholic sentiment — much of it originating in, or as a response to, immigrants in New York — remains an enduring force in American culture.

That was the consensus of a panel assembled at the Museum of the City of New York on Tuesday night to consider the question, “Is Anti-Catholicism Dead?

...The Rev. Richard John Neuhaus — a leading conservative intellectual, a former Lutheran pastor and the editor of the leading Catholic journal First Things — offered a surprising view on the question.

“To be a Catholic is not to be refused positions of influence in our society,” he said. “Indeed, one of the most acceptable things is to be a bad Catholic, and in the view of many people, the only good Catholic is a bad Catholic.”

...He added that anti-Catholicism was as likely to come from the left — sometimes from commentators who believe that a “threatening theological insurgency is engineered and directed by Catholics,” with evangelical Protestants merely as the movement’s “foot soldiers.”

(Excerpt) Read more at cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: anticatholic; anticatholicism; catholic; nytimes
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To: John Leland 1789

Ahhhhhhhhh . . . there is that.


661 posted on 07/28/2008 8:19:47 AM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: fortheDeclaration

THANKS THANKS.

AMEN! AMEN!


662 posted on 07/28/2008 8:21:12 AM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Tax-chick

Ah, Tom Selleck. HE IS one of God’s loveliest creations, in my book. I watched Magnum PI whenever I could. I like his later movies as well. Whatta hunk.


663 posted on 07/28/2008 8:25:36 AM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: pgkdan

Is there some assumption that I’m in the market for a style consultant?

What a curious assumption.

I’m quite comfortable that those with ears to hear and eyes to see are sufficiently lacking in confusion, for Kingdom Purposes.


664 posted on 07/28/2008 8:25:45 AM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: John Leland 1789

Wonderful!


665 posted on 07/28/2008 8:27:14 AM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: annalex

The only church that matters is the Body of Christ, who will meet Him in the air. Won’t matter what denomination it was.


666 posted on 07/28/2008 8:28:14 AM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Petronski

Well, that IS your opinion but not mine. M


667 posted on 07/28/2008 8:35:17 AM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Petronski

You BELIEVE they do, but they might not. Read scripture yourself. Don’t always believe what anyone tells you it says.


668 posted on 07/28/2008 8:36:35 AM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Marysecretary

I know it.


669 posted on 07/28/2008 8:37:19 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Tax-chick

I love being with them. Especially when they do the Lord’s work.


670 posted on 07/28/2008 8:38:09 AM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Mad Dawg; Alex Murphy; blue-duncan; BnBlFlag; Dr. Eckleburg; ears_to_hear; Forest Keeper; ...

I think if we try to evaluate the historic behavior of the Catholic Church in terms of a system of nations states with constitutions and institutions which more or less accurately pretend to some notions of innate human rights and representative government, then we will fail to understand the political turmoil of the time from, say, Nero to Henry VIII. And failing to understand that we will be guilty of despising the giants on whose shoulders we stand, and mocking them for not being as tall or seeing as far as we do.

= = =

Perhaps there’s a few percent of truth to that. Maybe 2-3%.

At the bottom line, imho, it’s a bit like parents saying in the counseling session that they did all they knew to do . . . that little Johnny has just been rebellious from the first week of life yada yada yada.

And it’s actually quite obvious that there’s been tons of discipline WITHOUT RELATIONSHIP and TONS of PROVOKING TO WRATH unreasonably. Clear violations of Scripture.

The hierarchy had sufficient Scripture to have behaved more Christ-like at every stage along the way from it’s politically assumptive power-mongering around 300-400 or so on.

The Jewish magicsterical also had sufficient Scripture to have behaved as children of God instead of as children of satan as Christ accurately labeled them.

Essentially, there’s no excuse that will stand before Almighty God. The ten commandments have been around a long time.

The 2nd Commandment has been around a long time.

Doing unto others has never been rescinded or revised.

The Jewish, RC, Episcopal, Lutheran, Baptist, Pentecostal magicstericals have all done and do dastardly evil things because the heart of man, of individuals is deceitfully wicked (Jer 17:9).

Collectively—bureaucratically, they tend to gather evil interest and multiplied potency.

Historical context can be important in understanding trends etc. etc. etc. Such will not offer a shred of fig-leaf protection before Almighty God.


671 posted on 07/28/2008 8:38:14 AM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Petronski

My younger son used to say that so often that I nicknamed him “I know it.” LOL


672 posted on 07/28/2008 8:39:26 AM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Petronski

I was hoping for personal summaries.

However, thanks for the link.


673 posted on 07/28/2008 8:39:53 AM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: tiki

Unmitigated hogwash.

Prottys ‘yell’ at each other plenty often.

However, the RC edifice is such a huge target in terms of outrageous UNBiblical heretical horrendous STUFF . . . it rather begs a long list of questions and responses 24/7.


674 posted on 07/28/2008 8:42:35 AM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Marysecretary

THANKS.

BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.


675 posted on 07/28/2008 8:43:37 AM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Marysecretary

HOLY SPIRIT DOES A WONDERFUL JOB.

No fantasized interlopers needed.


676 posted on 07/28/2008 8:45:35 AM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Petronski

677 posted on 07/28/2008 8:47:32 AM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Quix
Is there some assumption that I’m in the market for a style consultant?

No. If you don't mind the perception some folks have that you're incapable of rigorous debate and that you substitute sarcasm and cartoons for wit and substance then I don't mind either.

678 posted on 07/28/2008 8:49:15 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Quix

“The Jewish, RC, Episcopal, Lutheran, Baptist, Pentecostal magicstericals have all done and do dastardly evil things because the heart of man, of individuals is deceitfully wicked (Jer 17:9).

Historical context can be important in understanding trends etc. etc. etc. Such will not offer a shred of fig-leaf protection before Almighty God.”

So, faith and works leads to salvation?


679 posted on 07/28/2008 8:51:55 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: pgkdan
No. If you don't mind the perception some folks have that you're incapable of rigorous debate and that you substitute sarcasm and cartoons for wit and substance then I don't mind either.

That's what the scroll wheel is for :)

680 posted on 07/28/2008 9:02:36 AM PDT by Hacksaw (Deport illegals the same way they came here - one at a time.)
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