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Is Anti-Catholicism Dead? (Ques. Proposed by NY Times)
NY Times City Room Blog ^ | 7/23/2008 | Sewell Chan

Posted on 07/23/2008 2:47:21 PM PDT by Pyro7480

When Gov. Alfred E. Smith ran for president in 1928, his candidacy was derailed in large part by anti-Catholic prejudice. It has been nearly 48 years since John F. Kennedy became the first (and so far only) Roman Catholic president, but experts say that anti-Catholic sentiment — much of it originating in, or as a response to, immigrants in New York — remains an enduring force in American culture.

That was the consensus of a panel assembled at the Museum of the City of New York on Tuesday night to consider the question, “Is Anti-Catholicism Dead?

...The Rev. Richard John Neuhaus — a leading conservative intellectual, a former Lutheran pastor and the editor of the leading Catholic journal First Things — offered a surprising view on the question.

“To be a Catholic is not to be refused positions of influence in our society,” he said. “Indeed, one of the most acceptable things is to be a bad Catholic, and in the view of many people, the only good Catholic is a bad Catholic.”

...He added that anti-Catholicism was as likely to come from the left — sometimes from commentators who believe that a “threatening theological insurgency is engineered and directed by Catholics,” with evangelical Protestants merely as the movement’s “foot soldiers.”

(Excerpt) Read more at cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: anticatholic; anticatholicism; catholic; nytimes
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To: Always Right

Is this the “Leave Britney alone” lunatic? I assume it should have gone to a obamassiah thread.

Perhaps you should consider using a picture of that divorcee lunatic who’s posting all her grieviances on U-tube. Now that’s scarry and whinney.


181 posted on 07/25/2008 8:19:18 AM PDT by Jaded (Does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Mad Dawg

I am now officially a Mad Dawg groupie.....I’ll just follow you around and tell you how brilliant you are. Of course, it’s not as cool as it could be.....I have to lug my three kids around with me too. All of whom have their own ideas as to what they want to spend their free time doing.....rarely does it have anything to do with what I want.


182 posted on 07/25/2008 8:52:54 AM PDT by mockingbyrd (official Mad Dawg groupie.)
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To: Tax-chick

See that’s because they hadn’t read the super secret part of the Bible that says, “What ever you do to the least of My Brethren....provided it doesn’t involve getting any of those Catholic cooties, or even making eye contact.....”


183 posted on 07/25/2008 8:54:44 AM PDT by mockingbyrd (official Mad Dawg groupie.)
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To: Always Right; reagandemocrat

Yeah! Awesome pic!


184 posted on 07/25/2008 9:04:14 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (I don't believe in organized religion. I'm a Catholic.)
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To: mockingbyrd

It’s always encouraging to find that the really dippy people are a minority. Most people think feeding the hungry comes first.


185 posted on 07/25/2008 9:11:22 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Tax-chick's House of Herpets. Support your local reptile vet!)
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To: mockingbyrd; Jaded; samiam1972
I am now officially a Mad Dawg groupie

Like, O. M. G! (insert squeal here) That is just like SEW KEWel!

But wait, I need help with the rules. Does that mean, like, I ought to have a T-shirt outlet on the web? Baseball caps and the like?

My parents logged on to FR and all I got was this lousy verbose argument.

That kind of thing?

How about a nice shirt that says,

Just
the

RABIES,
Baby!

Seriously, y'all? Thanks very much.

And, mb, do the little ones count as grandgroupies?

186 posted on 07/25/2008 9:15:13 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Always Right; annalex; Mrs. Don-o
You remain unable to find an example of any Catholic poster telling a Protestant (or any other denomination) poster that he or she is going to hell. It just isn't done. We don't make decisions about who is heading for the Bad Place, there's only One who does that.

BWA HAHAHAHAHA!
"It just isn't done"???

[bold and color emphasis mine]

To: AnalogReigns

You are hell bound, generally speaking, yes, by the fact of your being separated brethren. Excommunication is no small matter, but you cannot excommunicate someone who never held a claim of communion — someone who is not separated brother. I am not making light of it, I am simply pointing out that the real problem here is not words but beliefs.

120 posted on 05/16/2008 4:37:07 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
Annalex went on to post a link to another thread to explain his statement. See these comments, from that other thread, to put his "hell bound" statement into broader context:
- If I were looking for a church to join, I would only consider among those who regard themselves as the only path to salvation. Why bother with the rest?
- The Church is the divine institution, supreme arbiter and sole instrument of salvation for all men.
- well-informed rejection of any dogma of the faith excommunicates

When I reposted annalex' comments a short time later, annalex referred us back to that same explanation, and specifically the post with the "if I were looking for a church to join" comment, for context.

187 posted on 07/25/2008 9:18:50 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Thanks for the find and effort on the post. It probably won’t satisfy all of them though. There is enough negative posting on both sides for either one to claim innocence.


189 posted on 07/25/2008 9:36:40 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Alex Murphy; Mad Dawg

It took you two days to find it? It’s not as prevalent as you fantasize. But we all need a fantasy or two, right?


190 posted on 07/25/2008 9:38:04 AM PDT by Jaded (Does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: sandyeggo

ROFL


191 posted on 07/25/2008 9:39:11 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Mad Dawg

Hey, sounds like a great idea. I probably have an embroidery file that is similar to your pic.

Personally, I’d like to see the secret decoder ring in different colors. Or 14K with multi colored stones. Or how about a really cool decoder watch with interchangeable bands and bezzels? Your pic could be on the face of the watch.


192 posted on 07/25/2008 9:40:58 AM PDT by Jaded (Does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Jaded
It took you two days to find it?

First off it wasn't him that was challenged, it was me, so I doubt he spent two days. Second off, there was no time limit, but only several posters who doubted there wasn't even one.

193 posted on 07/25/2008 9:44:35 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: sandyeggo

This is what I always sang to my kids when they were feeling really sorry for themselves and now the grandchildren get it occasionally:

Poor, poor pitiful me!
Poor, poor pitiful me!
Lord have mercy on me!
Woe, woe is me!

Very heavy emphasis on the “Woe, woe, is me.”


194 posted on 07/25/2008 9:50:14 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: sandyeggo

On a serious note though even those links don’t say what the poster asked for it just shows a failure to intellectually grasp the teaching and annalex didn’t say anyone WAS going to hell.


196 posted on 07/25/2008 9:54:22 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: sandyeggo; Always Right
I think it’s not good to overstate a case, (that NOBODY has ever said a thing) as it can usually be shown that SOMEBODY has. On both sides.

In the same way, it’s not good to overstate in the other direction, as in “Catholics/Protestants are ALWAYS telling me/us...”

Congradulations. You've learned something.

199 posted on 07/25/2008 10:06:03 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: sandyeggo
Well, let's not spoil this by putting it in context. To the racks wi' ya!
200 posted on 07/25/2008 10:06:45 AM PDT by Jaded (Does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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