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Doesn’t God know when He creates someone, if they are going to live a life that will have no opportunity to hear of Christ? If so, then isn’t that the same as creating someone that is doomed at birth, to go to hell, no matter what?


36 posted on 07/18/2008 7:58:59 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr
Doesn’t God know when He creates someone, if they are going to live a life that will have no opportunity to hear of Christ? If so, then isn’t that the same as creating someone that is doomed at birth, to go to hell, no matter what?

You've discovered Calvinism.

42 posted on 07/18/2008 8:06:47 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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You’ve been offered answer to that repeated query, and it has been offered on several occasions by several different Christian people. Yet you continue to ask that same thing as if there is no satisfactory answer ... for you. By remaining obstinate you set your own fate. You pretend that if you suffer an adverse fate it must be God’s fault, but your rejection of the responses shows it is in fact your responsibility that determines your fate.


59 posted on 07/18/2008 8:38:25 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: stuartcr; Alex Murphy; Gamecock
Doesn’t God know when He creates someone, if they are going to live a life that will have no opportunity to hear of Christ? If so, then isn’t that the same as creating someone that is doomed at birth, to go to hell, no matter what?

The Calvinists have a much more encompassing view than just that. It doesn't matter if you were born next door to a Calvinist church, attended it all your life, and did your best - if you're not among God's elected you were born to fry.

You may ask how do you know if you're among the elected. Apparently if you have to ask, that means you not one of them.

This means that the God who knew you in your mother's womb decided before your birth that you'd be eventually sent to his eternal fry cook and there's not a thing you can do about it. And that's the Calvinist God of ever lasting mercy and love.

80 posted on 07/18/2008 9:18:20 AM PDT by xJones
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To: stuartcr
"Doesn’t God know when He creates someone, if they are going to live a life that will have no opportunity to hear of Christ? If so, then isn’t that the same as creating someone that is doomed at birth, to go to hell, no matter what?"

I don't pretend to know God's mind. My job is to follow the final instructions of Jesus.

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

You have heard (read on this thread) the Gospel. What you do now remain only your responsibility. If you want to know what God thinks, read Job and study how God answered his questions.
82 posted on 07/18/2008 9:26:08 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: stuartcr
Doesn’t God know when He creates someone, if they are going to live a life that will have no opportunity to hear of Christ? If so, then isn’t that the same as creating someone that is doomed at birth, to go to hell, no matter what?

Good questions...And God provides the answers in His written word, the bible...

People without the knowledge of the existance of God will be judged by their conscience...It is inherant in everyone (who has come of age) what is right and what is wrong...

But interestingly, people of 3rd world countries who have never heard of the God that we know about seem to 'know' there is something somewhere who will one day pass judgement on their actions...

117 posted on 07/18/2008 11:20:19 AM PDT by Iscool (If Obama becomes the President, it will be an Obama-nation)
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