To: Alex Murphy; All
1. I'm neither Calvinist nor Mormon but I can say with a modicum of certainty both John Calvin AND Joseph Smith were nasty individuals.
2. According to Christian "Doctrine", had Adolph Hitler accepted jesus as his Lord and Savior, he too would have been headed for the Pearly Gates. That's an even "nicer" message. That's why deathbed conversions are empty.
3. Those who claim they will go to Heaven because they are born-again are comparable to someone who would walk into a state lottery office and claim winning because they believe they have the true numbers.
It's based upon an imperfect interpretation of a few chapters of one document.
4. I wouldn't share a one floor elevator ride with most people who claim they will be going to Heaven, no less an entire afterlife.
21 posted on
07/18/2008 7:19:55 AM PDT by
britt reed
(His followers believe Obama is the "Second Coming", those with open eyes recognize the Golden Calf.)
To: britt reed
That's why deathbed conversions are emptyOnly empty deathbed conversions are empty. The criminal on the cross next to Jesus had a deathbed conversion that seemed to work just fine.
Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise."
32 posted on
07/18/2008 7:47:49 AM PDT by
Tao Yin
(Hey, this thread isn't ecumenical)
To: britt reed
2. According to Christian "Doctrine", had Adolph Hitler accepted Jesus as his Lord and Savior, he too would have been headed for the Pearly Gates. That's an even "nicer" message. That's why deathbed conversions are empty. Actually, a Calvinist would more likely tell you that Hitler was predestined to be unregenerate and that he is burning in Hell right now. A "deathbed confession" would not happen unless God willed it to happen. So, yes, they pretty much are empty. None of us (Calvinists) believe we can "fool God", and live lives of debauchery and then cash in our redemption card on our deathbeds. God saves whom He chooses to save.
To: britt reed
4. I wouldn't share a one floor elevator ride with most people who claim they will be going to Heaven, no less an entire afterlife. I recommend "The Great Divorce" by C.S. Lewis.
120 posted on
07/18/2008 11:26:02 AM PDT by
Mr Rogers
(Old, pale and stale - McCain in 2008! but we're only one vote away from losing the 2nd amendment...)
To: britt reed; Alex Murphy; All
2. According to Christian "Doctrine", had Adolph Hitler accepted jesus as his Lord and Savior, he too would have been headed for the Pearly Gates. That's an even "nicer" message. That's why deathbed conversions are empty. He would.
No sin is to great that it is not forgiven at the Cross.
170 posted on
07/18/2008 5:45:53 PM PDT by
wmfights
(Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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