“Verified” Lakeland Resurrection From The Dead Was A Lie (Todd Bentley)

EndTimesPropheticWords ^ | July 17, 2008 | M. Franklin

[IreneE]

Verified” Lakeland Resurrection from the Dead was a Lie

Thanks to poster ’Arise My Love’ for pointing this video out here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toGYy-H3pCw&feature=related

From 6.20 minutes onwards on the video explains how the Fresh Fires Ministries passed through their ‘audit’ process an email, and Todd Bentley read out this same email of an alleged raising from the dead, without even attempting to check out any of the facts, let alone verifying them.

Update 17th July: despite explictly being told the story was false, they haven’t retracted this story from their website or verbally.

[IreneE]

Todd and his cronies just don't get it. "Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness" applies to them. ABC Nightline missed this in their report last week.

[Old Sarge]

If they want people rising from the dead, they should show up to an infantry battalion formation on Sunday morning...

[mkjessup]

“Back in the day” as they say, an elderly man was watching Oral Roberts on TV, and Oral looked in the camera and said “where ever you are, what ever you are doing, take your right hand and place it on top of your television set, and then place your left hand on whatever part of your body is sick and ailing, and you WILL be healed!”

The elderly man placed his right hand on the TV, and then looked around real quick and put his left hand over his crotch.

His wife cackles from the kitchen, “oh will you STOP?!? he said heal the SICK, not raise the DEAD!!!!”

[IreneE]

Thanks for making me laugh.

Somehow, old Oral seems like paddycakes next to these demonic fakers.

I wish I could really laugh at them but they are wounding so many people I’m afraid it gets to me.

[IreneE]

My bro, who is a Major in the Army, salutes you and I salute you on this idea!

I actually do believe these kind of miracles are possible, but not probable with these folks at Lakeland.

[andysandmikesmom]

It gets to me as well....I always thought Benny Hinn, up there on stage, waving his magical arms around, pretending to send a quarter of the audience into a dead faint, as if, “slain in the spirit” was the ultimate low point, but I can see, there is always further down to go....

That being said, I do believe that miracles, and spontaneous cures, can and do happen...I just do not place my faith, in some self proclaimed faith healers...

If this guy is legit, surely he can bring an amputee on stage, and recreate one of his limbs...I dont ask for even an arm or a leg, or a hand or foot...how about recreating a big toe or a pinky finger...that should be childs play for someone who claims he can raise the dead...

[RJR_fan]

A wise paraticipant on another forum wrote,

Christians can be especially vulnerable to hypnotic control, as they often possess the traits that make for good hypnotic candidates: they have a much greater expectation of, and desire for a supernatural occurrence, and they’re more ready to lend their trust to an (often self-proclaimed) authority. When there’s a gathered group of people with deep, shared beliefs, desires, and yearnings, suggestibility is increased even further.

To which I had to say,

YES!

For example, the ritual of the "altar call," and the ease with which a trained stage hypnotist (excuse me, "crusade 'evangelist'") can mass-produce altered states of consciousness -- at least, temporarily. The one "crusade 'evangelist'" with sufficient integrity to do the math discovered that 96% of his "conversions" were spurious. Only 4% of Billy Graham's "converts" ever got around to living as visible Christians.

People will scream if you touch their sacred traditions -- even rituals with a 96% failure rate, rites that harden people against God, and sow a deep bitterness into the culture. Dupes who realize that they were manipulated into a meaningless humiliation (" every head bowed, every eye closed ... come forward and make my numbers look good ... ") resent having been played for fools.

The chickens have come home to roost in Lakeland. Our willingness to tolerate manipulative techniques, for more than 150 years, have heaped reproach upon the name of our Savior, and His gospel.

[andysandmikesmom]

Excellent observations...

[mkjessup]

Thanks for making me laugh. Somehow, old Oral seems like paddycakes next to these demonic fakers. I wish I could really laugh at them but they are wounding so many people I’m afraid it gets to me.

I admit that at first I was enthused about what sounded (from many reports) of a great revival taking place in Lakeland, but on further review it occurred to me that the Holy Spirit is highly unlikely to instruct Todd Bentley to kick people, knock them down, stomp on them, etc., in order to "heal" them.

I consider it highly likely that he is driven not by the Holy Spirit, but by demonic influences.

And the so-called 'healings' are all "internal", there are never any limbs restored, vision recovered, or any obvious signs of the true miraculous Power of God.

If anyone were to tell me they were headed for Lakeland to see Bentley, I would give them the same advice if they said they were going to a brothel, i.e., "hope you'll enjoy bringing home all those infectious bugs (demons) with you".

[Marysecretary]

Smith Wigglesworth used to hit people and knock cancers off their bodies. He was the real thing. You don’t know for sure how God is going to move in healing. He may ask very foolish sounding things of any one of us.

[mkjessup]

http://www.zimbio.com/pilot?ZURL=%2FThe%2BPursuit%2Bof%2BGod%2Farticles%2F96%2FTold%2BTodd%2BBentley%2BHealed%2BGoes%2BOff%2BMedication&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theledger.com%2Farticle%2F20080705%2FNEWS%2F588942307

[tiki]

I know a woman with Diabetes and she has thought she was miraculously cured at least twice and stopped her insulin, the miracle is that she survived long enough to get back on her insulin but both times she ended up in the emergency room near death.

[andysandmikesmom]

That is one of the dangers with people like this...when folks are on medication, and they go to these meetings, and ‘believe’ that they are cured, and then stop their meds, they may be throwing away their lives....

The first thing someone should do, if they ‘believe’ that they are cured, is to go back to the doctor who was treating them for the condition in the first place, and see just what is going on with their health...

I dont believe that this Bentley fella, is any different from all other different fake faith healers, that are out there...

As I said previously, let Bentley recreate someones amputated toe, or little pinkie finger, or as someone else on another thread suggested, have Bentley go through pediatric burn unit, and heal all the suffering children..

Mere childs play, for someone who claims to raise the dead....

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

Raise the dead? No big deal. The Democrats do it thousands of times every election.

[tiki]

Good one.

[tiki]

My mother used to drag me to those healing revivals, she used to get so mad at me because I wasn’t impressed. I have a real problem with getting the giggles when I see some preacher emoting and play acting like he’s in some Broadway play and then they can just shut it off like a light switch.

We have a priest in town that emotes like crazy, he’s a soft spoken man until he starts the Mass and then his whole tone and demeanor change, it is like he’s play-acting and I always giggle, I can’t go to his Masses because I know I shouldn’t be laughing but I can’t help it. He’s a nice guy but I feel like I’m in lala land. These guys make me think that they went to acting school instead of seminary. Except that most of the faith-healers were self-taught and I think self-ordained.

I just looked up one that I remembered from back in the 70s and found this, it cracked me up. I know he’s also been in prison.

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/news2/an020112-10.html

And here is the Google results.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GGIC_enUS224US224&q=leroy+jenkins+faith+healer

The healers would get everybody high on adrenaline and then he’d touch certain ones and tell them they were healed.

I’d always tell my mom to wait a few days and see if they were still healed.

Don’t get me wrong, I believe God can and does heal, Jesus did and we live by His example. If it is God’s will there will be healing and if not then not. I don’t understand it but I trust God knows what He is doing even when He isn’t doing it the way I want Him to.

[andysandmikesmom]

Thanks for those links....

I hear what you are saying...I also believe the miraculous cures can and do happen...I just dont happen to believe that the likes of this Bentley fella or the likes of Benny Hinn, are the ones carrying out these cures....those guys are just as fake as it can get...

I will give you a link to another scam artist, that I used to see during the late 1970’s and the early 1980’s when I lived down in North Carolina...this guy’s name was Jim Whittington, and he was based out of South Carolina, I believe...he had his Sunday Morning Revivial meeting on TV, and had some singing and such, and then he would start into ‘healing folks’.....this guy also went to jail, here is a Wikipedia article about him...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Whittington

That was so many years ago...we moved from North Carolina to Washington State, and I had not thought about Whitting for many years...then once, in the middle of the night here, I was channel surfing and good grief, there appeared Whittington, accompanied by one of his daughters, with their schtick...so I decided to google Whittington, and found out that Whittington spent time in jail..Naturally as soon as they get out, they go back to the business they know best...

Anyway, here is Whittingtons latest website...

http://www.jimwhittington.com/index-old.htm

This guy in one slick con artist...

[tiki]

I guess his motto is looove, he’s been married 4 times.

It is sad though what these people do and they do it to defraud, there is no luv. People who go to them are sometimes desparate and they hold up non-existent hope.

My mom believed them. When we were going through her stuff she had lots of pins from the 700 Club and other “free” gifts from other televangelists.

These guys are just as bad as the Nigerian scammers, they are stealing by lying, granted people want what they say they are selling but they should be put out of business.

[mkjessup]

I highly recommend the following URL, scroll down to the comment "Todd Bentley Imparts" from 'Walter Veith', it is a powerful denunciation and dismantling of this lying deceiver:

http://deceptionbytes.com/Todd-Bentley-New-Age-Christ

[markomalley]

That is one of the dangers with people like this...when folks are on medication, and they go to these meetings, and ‘believe’ that they are cured, and then stop their meds, they may be throwing away their lives....

Happened to my late first wife about 20 years ago.