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To: Diego1618
The scriptures only mention a number in thousands leaving Israel. do you think it would be so easy for bronze age peoples to forcibly migrate all people from a hilly, mountainous land like Israel?

The Assyrian Empire didn't "implode" - it was tken over by another, related Semitic people: the Babylonians.

The Israelites were related to both Assyrians and Babylonians; they spoke mutually intelligeble languages and their cultures were similar. They would have been assimilated. The reason the later Judeans did not assimilate into the Persian empire is because the PErsians are aryans like the Celts, Germanics, Indians, Slavs, etc.with quite a different language and culture compared to the Semitics

Peter went evangelizing to later Jewish communities who travelled via the Persian, Alexandrian and Roman Empires (Empires that emphasised trade rather than tribute as the Assyrians did). There were Jewish (as opposed to earlier Israelite) communities.

I would say Europeans and Hebrews were somewhat similar.

Arabs are more closely related to Hebrews than Hebrews are related to any Indo-Europeans.

The mere fact that scripture tells us that Israel will be an uncountable people....not knowing who they really are would lead me to believe they have long since left the Middle East in great numbers.
Any northern tribes would have been majorly retained in the blood-lines of Iraqis, Syrians, Lebanese, Jordanians, etc and through inter-marriage to the Iranis, Armenians, Turks, Greeks etc. The "purest" lines would remain in the Middle East.

Benjamin, Simeon were assimilated into Judah due to natural pressures for smaller similar groups to merge into larger, more powerful relatives. Ditto for Reuben merging into the similar culture of the Moabites
50 posted on 07/18/2008 9:14:10 PM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: Cronos; John Leland 1789; ladyL
The scriptures only mention a number in thousands leaving Israel.

Chapter and verse....please?

The Assyrian Empire didn't "implode" - it was taken over by another, related Semitic people: the Babylonians.

History of Assyria

From the link: "The First Dark Age" The Assyrian empire collapsed in 612 B.C. The Assyrian people survived the loss of their state, and they remained mostly inconspicuous for the next 600 years. The Persians mention employing Assyrians as troops, and there is the failed attempt at reestablishing an Assyrian Kingdom in 350 B.C.; the Persians squelched this attempt and castrated 400 Assyrian leaders as punishment.

When this happened the descendants of the Israelite captives begin to migrate. There was no one there to contain them. The Medes and the Babylonians divided up the empire and were evidently unconcerned about these folks. I'm sure that some Israelites were comfortable in remaining where they were. Because of Prophecy....I know others were not.... and left. To say that the Israelites, 125 years into their exile did not recall their identity is silly. They were in Egypt for over 400 years and did not assimilate. Or....do you think God just forgot them.....you know....out of sight, out of mind?

Peter went evangelizing to later Jewish communities who traveled via the Persian, Alexandrian and Roman Empires (Empires that emphasized trade rather than tribute as the Assyrians did). They were Jewish (as opposed to earlier Israelite) communities.

Peter had been sent, along with the other original Apostles.....by Our Lord to the Israelites [Matthew 10:5-6] These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. This is one of the reasons you will never find the Apostle Peter in Rome...much to the consternation of many folks. He had been told to evangelize the Israelites....not the Gentiles. It was his special mission. Paul was selected to be the Apostle to the Gentiles....but was also given authority to evangelize the House of Judah and the House of Israel [Acts 9:15]. In fact The Lord was so adamant about Peter's ministry that He would not allow even Paul to intercede in these areas of the dispersion: [Acts 16:6-7] Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia, After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered them not. If you recall from one of my previous posts.....this was a location of Israelites of the dispersion: [1 Peter 1:1-2] Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Arabs are more closely related to Hebrews than Hebrews are related to any Indo-Europeans.

Arabs are descendants of Ishmael....also a son of Abraham .....as was Isaac. They indeed are Hebrew also (descended from Eber) and they are Semitic as well (descended from Shem). The only difference is their heritage on the side of their mother, Hagar, who was Egyptian.

Any northern tribes would have been majorly retained in the blood-lines of Iraqis, Syrians, Lebanese, Jordanians, etc and through inter-marriage to the Iranis, Armenians, Turks, Greeks etc. The "purest" lines would remain in the Middle East.

Balderdash!

Benjamin, Simeon were assimilated into Judah due to natural pressures for smaller similar groups to merge into larger, more powerful relatives. Ditto for Reuben merging into the similar culture of the Moabites.

Since I have already defeated this argument in post #44 I won't bother to comment further.

56 posted on 07/18/2008 10:11:20 PM PDT by Diego1618
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