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To: Cronos
Yes!!! You are starting to get the picture which is a large jump for most people :) If you purpose to go into this study of our faith from the Hebrew perspective you will discover that Yahweh has only one chosen people and that's the Israelites. There are only two kinds of people in the world, Gentiles (heathen and pagans) and Israelites. “If you are in Jesus Christ you are Abraham's seed” Gal.3:29. The scriptures are all over the place, 100’s of them that show that the covenant people are the Jews and Christians today. These Christians do not know they are the lost Israelite that Yahshua came to redeem. More and more of us are finding our identity both by scripture and by the Spirit. Anyone who has a love for Israel and can't explain that love, I guarantee that person is an Israelite. Others are being drawn back to their Hebrew roots and don't understand why.

Well if you go to Ezk 4:4 you will see that Yah told Ezekiel to lay on his left side 390 days, a day for a year for each year Yah was going to punish the House of Israel. Then he told Ezkiel to lay 40 days on his right side as the years He would punish the House of Judah. See, 2 different nations, 2 different peoples, 2 different judgements. Jacob was told his decendents would become a nation and a company of nations. NOT JUST ONE JEWISH NATION !!!

Anyhow the 390 years of punishment (dispersion) were multiplied by 7 according to Lev. 28 that if punishment is applied but there is no repentance then the punishment would be multiplied seven times. 390 years X 7 = 2730 years. The House of Israel's punishment began in 721 BC when they were carried off by the Assyrians. Do the math.
The punishment is up THIS YEAR. That's why so many of us are finding out our true identity. We are Abraham's seed. We are Israelites. In Hosea Yahweh said at the end of our punishment he would give us back our identity, he would have mercy and compassion on us and He would bring us back to our land. These are exciting times and Yah is calling us all back to the Scriptures where He will meet us and help us shed man's traditions and doctrines and come back to His truths. I pray you continue in these studies.

47 posted on 07/18/2008 8:19:20 PM PDT by ladyL (.)
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To: ladyL; Cronos
Anyhow the 390 years of punishment (dispersion) were multiplied by 7 according to Lev. 28 that if punishment is applied but there is no repentance then the punishment would be multiplied seven times. 390 years X 7 = 2730 years.

[Leviticus 26:18-28] And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins. And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron, and your earth as brass: And your strength shall be spent in vain: for your land shall not yield her increase, neither shall the trees of the land yield their fruits. And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues upon you according to your sins. I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate. And if ye will not be reformed by me by these things, but will walk contrary unto me; Then will I also walk contrary unto you, and will punish you yet seven times for your sins. And I will bring a sword upon you, that shall avenge the quarrel of my covenant: and when ye are gathered together within your cities, I will send the pestilence among you; and ye shall be delivered into the hand of the enemy. And when I have broken the staff of your bread, ten women shall bake your bread in one oven, and they shall deliver you your bread again by weight: and ye shall eat, and not be satisfied. And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me; Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.

49 posted on 07/18/2008 8:57:13 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: ladyL
There are only two kinds of people in the world, Gentiles (heathen and pagans) and Israelites

So, what would you consider Muslim Arabs, who have descent from Jews?
52 posted on 07/18/2008 9:18:10 PM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: ladyL
What you're mouthing is a standard version of British Israelism (sometimes called Anglo-Israelism) is the belief that that many early Britons, Europeans and/or their royal families were direct lineal descendants of the Lost Tribes of Israel but rarely the Tribe of Judah.

It's based on Victorian tables made to help justify England's rejection of Europe.

Genetics research on DNA shows that most modern Jews share origins with other people of the Middle East and are sharply divergent genetically from Britons and other Europeans. Read this

People on the earth at present are described in 1 Cor 10:32 as being Jew, Gentile or of the Church of God. If, as claimed, the term Jew does not refer to the Israelite then where is the Israelite?
Roms 1:16 — The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation, ‘to the JEW first and also to the Greek.’ Roms 2:9 — ‘The JEW first and also of the Gentile.’ See also Roms 2:10, 14, 17.
In Roms 3:9 — ‘We have before proved BOTH JEWS AND GENTILES that they are ALL under sin.’

In Galatians 3, Paul speaks of the two groups of mankind as being JEW and GENTILE and emphasises that when they believe, JEW and GENTILE are now one in Christ.
These and other verses prove that the term Jew did come to be used to describe members of all the tribes of Israel.



If you claim that the indo-Europeans are all Israelites, then do you claim that Iranis, Russians, Germans, Indians, Greeks, Italians, Brits, Scandanavians, French, Spaniards etc. are all Israelite?




Finally, lets go to the funny method of saying that two place names sound alike hence they are alike.

what about such names in England as Birmingham? Are the English then descended from Ham?

Are africans descended from Dan too? Dan-ikil is a tribe in northeast Africa. So Dan marked the Africans Danikil as well as Danes? Then Din-ka—actually Dan-ka—belongs to the Nile section; and Don-gola—Dan-gola?—is also in Egypt.


Similarly, since we're going about similar sounding names, would you say that JAPan is part of JAPeth? Or, Manasseh became Manchuria?


Finally, language

The ancient British language as well as Old English, Anglo-Saxon, etc. were all Indo-European. English is descended from French-Norman, Scandanavian, German and Latin


We are Abraham's seed. We are Israelites., do you mean everyone? African-Americans? Japanese-Americans too?
54 posted on 07/18/2008 9:56:37 PM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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