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Another step toward what we know must eventually come (Another step toward persecution) [Ecumenical]
WDTPRS ^ | July 16, 2008 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 07/16/2008 12:46:18 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 07/16/2008 12:46:19 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

You can smell it coming. This will be a test unlike anything we have ever experienced.


2 posted on 07/16/2008 12:48:00 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

You have mail. God works in strange ways.


3 posted on 07/16/2008 12:49:45 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: NYer
You can smell it coming.

I smell smoke. It's got a pretty high sulfur content to it.

4 posted on 07/16/2008 12:50:33 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (El Conservo Tribal name "Avoids Fort Marcy Park")
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To: NYer

Interesting read.

Thanks for posting.


5 posted on 07/16/2008 12:51:08 PM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, Am I good enough to be a Christian? rather Am I good enough not to be?)
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To: NYer

A San Francisco city and county board resolution that officially labeled Islam’s teachings on jihad as “insulting to all San Franciscans,” “hateful,” “defamatory,” “insensitive” and “ignorant” will be challenged tomorrow in court for violating the Constitution’s prohibition of government hostility toward religion.


Anyone object now?


6 posted on 07/16/2008 1:01:14 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

A religion is entitled to advocate chastity. It is not entitled to advocate murder.


7 posted on 07/16/2008 1:14:33 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

What religion are you referring to?


8 posted on 07/16/2008 1:23:21 PM PDT by DonaldC
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To: sitetest
Anyone object now?

Beat me to it.

Currently, as WND has reported, Colorado and Michigan are tackling the question of whether the Bible itself can be vilified as "hate speech" for it’s condemnation of homosexuality, and Canada has developed human rights commissions, which have decided people cannot express opposition to homosexuality without fear of government reprisal.

And immediately after that they will be vilifying the koran as hate speech for the exact same reason.

Of course that would require them to actually have some B@lls.

9 posted on 07/16/2008 1:23:46 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: wideawake
Dear wideawake,

“A religion is entitled to advocate chastity. It is not entitled to advocate murder.”

I agree with you.

But we are both believing Catholics, and our views toward homosexuality are determined significantly by that fact.

I know homosexuals who believe that the Catholic Church's teachings on homosexuality are the promotion of violence and, yes, murder against homosexuals. This, they truly believe.

And I know Muslims who do not believe that Islamic teachings on jihad consist of advocating murder.

I disagree with both perspectives.

But I doubt that most folks in San Francisco agree with me, at least on the first point. And their representatives represent them in this view.


sitetest

10 posted on 07/16/2008 1:25:26 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: wideawake
What always gets me about these obnoxious people is that they depend--absolutely depend--on the listener/reader having a deep, subliminal, instinctual revulsion for the word "hatred" (and therefore do whatever teh "gays" want done at that moment). Yet the irony is that at one time this same instinctual revulsion towards homosexuality was universal. They "gays" have destroyed that particular instinctive reaction, but the leeches still attach themselves to the morality they despise whenever they scream about "hatred."
12 posted on 07/16/2008 1:29:00 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Pinechas Ben-'El`azar Ben-'Aharon HaKohen heshiv 'et-chamati me`al Benei-Yisra'el . . .)
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To: sitetest

Iran simply doesn’t have homosexuals there like we do in the US

they just don’t have that problem.


13 posted on 07/16/2008 1:33:56 PM PDT by woollyone (100 rounds per week totals over 5000 rounds in a year. Just thought you'd want to know.)
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To: NYer
"Our Constitution plainly forbids hostility toward any religion, including the Catholic faith," he said.

No, it doesn't. I wish people would be accurate. Is TMLC challenging the Board's statement on establishment grounds or on free exercise grounds? Either seems rather tenuous to me.

I suppose it could be played as a defamation case - like JimRob's against the City of Fresno.

14 posted on 07/16/2008 1:38:39 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Tax-chick's House of Herpets. We're basking - how about you?)
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To: NYer

i believe we will be gone. then they will smell some smoke. ...woe to those who call evil, good and good, evil.


15 posted on 07/16/2008 1:46:12 PM PDT by applpie
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***A San Francisco city and county board resolution that officially labeled the Catholic church’s moral teachings on homosexuality as “insulting to all San Franciscans,” “hateful,” “defamatory,” “insensitive” and “ignorant” will be challenged tomorrow in court for violating the Constitution’s prohibition of government hostility toward religion.***

Archbishop of Canterbury: ‘Christian doctrine is offensive to Muslims’:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1035420/Why-Christian-doctrine-offensive-Muslims-Archbishop.html

The Archbishop concurs.


16 posted on 07/16/2008 2:03:54 PM PDT by chase19
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Blessed Martyrs of Compiegne (whose feast day just happens to be tomorrow), pray for us!

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/library/onlinelibrary/martyrs.htm

Their story is an awesome inspiration for steadfastness in the face of persecution and death. (And it reminds me that I need to learn all of the Church’s prayers by heart. They sang the “Veni Creator Spiritus” on the way to their deaths. They knew it so thoroughly that their fear did not erase it. A good lesson for us all.)


17 posted on 07/16/2008 2:22:00 PM PDT by nanetteclaret ("I will sing praise to my God while I have my being." Psalm 104:33b)
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To: chase19

Abp Rowan Williams- a wolf in sheeps clothing.


18 posted on 07/16/2008 2:36:00 PM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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***Abp Rowan Williams- a wolf in sheeps clothing***

a wolf in SHEPHERD’S clothing! (even worse)


19 posted on 07/16/2008 2:39:47 PM PDT by nanetteclaret ("I will sing praise to my God while I have my being." Psalm 104:33b)
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To: NYer
**You can smell it coming. This will be a test unlike anything we have ever experienced.**

And the question remains, "Why is this being focused on the Catholic Church?"

Because the Catholic Church has now succumbed to the pressures of San Francisco government and condoned homosexuality.

Remember, however, hate the sin, love the sinner.

20 posted on 07/16/2008 2:46:47 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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