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To: Gamecock
I wonder whether "Aaron" is Aaron Shafovaloff (shah-FAH-vah-loff).

If so, he's an excellent young man, with a deep, deep care for the lost Mormons. I preached at a church in Tennessee, had the pleasure of talking with Aaron and hearing him present his mission.

From Aaron I learned the jaw-dropping truth that Mormons are fine with the idea that God the Father may have sinned; not only fine with it, but in some cases really love the thought. Chew on that one for awhile, if you have any temptation to think of Mormonism as pretty close to Biblical Christianity.

Anyway, if it was that Aaron, they should have credited him. One of his sites is Mormon Coffee, where you can find documentation of his conversations with Mormons about the sinning Father.

3 posted on 07/16/2008 6:19:48 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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...that Mormons are fine with the idea that God the Father may have sinned; not only fine with it, but in some cases really love the thought.

Just amazing.

Hey Roy, how are you with that idea?

5 posted on 07/16/2008 6:22:53 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, Am I good enough to be a Christian? rather Am I good enough not to be?)
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To: BibChr
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7 posted on 07/16/2008 6:32:55 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, Am I good enough to be a Christian? rather Am I good enough not to be?)
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To: BibChr

“From Aaron I learned the jaw-dropping truth that Mormons are fine with the idea that God the Father may have sinned; not only fine with it, but in some cases really love the thought.”

I would love to hear from some FR Mormons (either fLDS or _LDS), what they think about this.

If I understand their “theology” correctly, it is consistent with what they “think” (as opposed to what they “feel”?).


12 posted on 07/16/2008 7:24:32 AM PDT by fishtank (FIRST defeat Obama. ------------------ THEN resist McCain. ---------- A good plan.)
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To: BibChr

Yes it was Aaron Shafavaloff. I am a member of the same congregation as he and Bill McKeever.


17 posted on 07/16/2008 7:34:49 AM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: BibChr
From Aaron I learned the jaw-dropping truth that Mormons are fine with the idea that God the Father may have sinned; not only fine with it, but in some cases really love the thought. Chew on that one for awhile, if you have any temptation to think of Mormonism as pretty close to Biblical Christianity.

Indeed. My mom's family is all Mormon. Since I'm a Christian (and a southern baptist to boot) it creates some tension from time to time. But my LDS family believes that God may have once sinned and they also believe that if they live a good enough life, they can become gods themselves. The belief is that God Himself was once but a man, like us, but through his living of a good life became god as we know him know. The LDS church teaches that a similar thing is possible for Mormons.

Of course, none of this is compatible with traditional Christianity, which why I'm not an LDS member any longer.

It's truly surprising how many people think Mormonism is just another Christian denomination when there are, in fact, significant theological differences between Mormonism and traditional Christianity.
29 posted on 07/16/2008 8:48:59 AM PDT by JamesP81 (George Orwell's 1984 was a warning, not a suggestion)
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