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To: Soliton
...every sapient living thing has evolved a "will to live". Morals, ethics, religions and cultures are simply methods for enforcing that will.

Are Jesus and the martyrs immoral?

On the on hand we have martyrs and people who sacrifice their lives for the good of the unit (or whatever). On the other hand we have people who kill children born alive and think they have a duty to do so.

Are both of these defects in the "will to live"?

One another level, I see that you have a theory about what is. I see know theory about what "should be," unless you are suggesting that there is no "should be".

If we stipulate that every sapient thing has evolved a will to live, we haven't shown that that's a good thing. We've will only have agreed that it is a thing that is, like cancer or sunsets.

Is entropy a bad thing?

146 posted on 07/18/2008 7:14:30 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg
Are Jesus and the martyrs immoral?

I don't know why you ask. I've never even implied it.

Is entropy a bad thing?

Natural selection has made entropy a bad thing. Our cultures evolved to view entropy as a bad thing. They just call anti-entropic acts things like justice and faith and moral and good. The icons of anti-entopy are Jesus and Buddha and Mencius, and Hillel.

147 posted on 07/18/2008 7:30:10 PM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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