[Soliton]

Are Jesus and the martyrs immoral?

I don't know why you ask. I've never even implied it.

Is entropy a bad thing?

Natural selection has made entropy a bad thing. Our cultures evolved to view entropy as a bad thing. They just call anti-entropic acts things like justice and faith and moral and good. The icons of anti-entopy are Jesus and Buddha and Mencius, and Hillel.

[Mad Dawg]

Wait wait, I'm over here reading about the Canadian hollow moon! It explains EVERYTHING!

;-)

I don't know why you ask. I've never even implied it.

I didn't think you had, necessarily. I was exploring the, what, dimensions of an ethic derived from a "Will-to-live".

Natural selection has made entropy a bad thing.

Okay, I'm confused. Has natural selection made entropy a bad thing or has it made entropy something lots of people THINK is a bad thing?

I'm suggesting that there is a distinction between what people think and what things are.

Do you think entropy is a bad thing?

I'm not trying to back you into a corner or anything. I'm trying to understand agnostic or atheist ethics.