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To: thefrankbaum
1. However, having a symbolic communion ritual is more prevalent than the views of Luther in the various Protestant denominations, is it not?

First, we'd need to discount the mainline Protestants for whom the sacrament is pretty much meaningless other than as a comfortable habit.

The Baptists would be the largest of the symbolic crowd, and they've had a large influence on the large 'E' Evangleicals. On the other hand, there has been a lot of recent discussion as to how large the Southern Baptists really are - certainly far smaller than their claimed numbers.

The Lutherans and Reformed are discussed above - and there are a lot of Lutherans in the country.

So I'm not sure I'd concede the 'prevalent' at this point.

2. I don't see much left to debate there.

I have to post and run - I'll get back for the other 2 later.

19 posted on 07/16/2008 5:27:07 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35
Just on 1, since I think we're good on 2:

Well, Anglicanism doesn't really have a fixed teaching on the Eucharist - some certainly teach the symbolic understanding, others don't. So, we can add some of them to the total. And, although I think we'll get into this when you come back, from my vantage point, I'd argue Calvinism teaches the symbolic understanding - however, like I said, that was point 3, so we'll work on that in a bit.

I don't know enough about Presbyterians or Methodists to really have an opinion, but I'd guess they have a more symbolic understanding. And I certainly think "Purpose Driven" groups have a symbolic understanding. Anyway, I look forward to continuing this conversation.

20 posted on 07/16/2008 6:00:13 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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