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Jeffrey Steenson: Why I Became Catholic [Address to Anglican Use Conference]
Via De Cura Animarum ^ | 7/14/2008 | Jeffrey Steenson

Posted on 07/15/2008 12:07:56 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam

Jeffrey Steenson (formerly bishop in TEC [The Episcopal Church]) recently spoke at the Anglican Use Conference in Texas, USA. [Excerpts:]

Anglicanism has for the last quarter century proceeded quite intentionally from the principle that truth not only is discerned primarily in the experience of the Christian community but also that the community itself has priority over truth. This approach has produced a very meager and inconsequential harvest, and the great legacy of Anglican theological scholarship has been lost. The contrast with the Catholic mind is striking. As an Anglican I would take in hand, for instance, The Catechism of the Catholic Church and ask, could my church have produced a work so penetrating and comprehensive? No, it has neither the capacity nor the confidence to speak its mind in such a way. Why? Because it has deliberately cut itself off from the tradition...Catholic-oriented Anglicans have expended considerable energy in the search for amiable ecclesial arrangements, both personal and corporate, but it is good to bring all this activity into perspective.

There is an answer so simple and penetrating that it sweeps everything else off the table. To be sure, there are costs to be counted, teachings to be more fully comprehended (although this can easily become an excuse for indolence), and expectations to be managed. But this is what I should like to say to my dear friends who have put one toe into the other side of the Tiber. Listen to your conscience! The good conscience is a precious gift of faith, the Apostles regard it as the telos of all Christian acts, and it is our right by baptism. In the acrimonious Anglican wars, the liberals are acting from conscience (albeit misguided), the courageous Evangelicals are equally as clear, so why, dear friends, is your conscience so conflicted? God does not intend for it to be so but desires that we serve him with a good conscience (Acts 24:16).


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
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Full text can be found here:

http://www.anglicanuse.org/files/The-Causes-for-Becoming-Catholic.pdf

1 posted on 07/15/2008 12:07:57 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
People come to the Catholic Church not because they have worked out every point of doctrine but because they trust that what the Church teaches is true. This is no blind act of faith but the conviction that the Church of Rome is the principal witness to the apostolic tradition.

We belong to the Latin Church because we have come from her. In spite of being separated from the Holy See, we have always understood ourselves to be a part of Western Catholicism.

WOW! It's like this guy's been reading my mind. For an Anglican who truly believes himself to be a catholic, there is simply no other choice to be made. Though my own choice still is cause for some discomfort in my life, the sense of peace that I've found since making the swim is simply overwhelming. I'm driven practically to tears each and every Sunday morning. Espcially when we sing hymns that I've sung all my life in Anglican churches. Now they take on a whole new meaning for me. I'm in a new place and yet I'm finally HOME!

2 posted on 07/15/2008 12:42:15 PM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: trad_anglican

They sing at the Catholic Parish you attend?!! Must be loads of swimmers there.

One of my favorites has always been Robert Palmer’s (Anglo-Catholic Priest) “Sing of Mary”, unfortunately I’ve never heard beyond the first verse sung at a Catholic Church.


3 posted on 07/15/2008 12:49:57 PM PDT by Cheverus
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To: trad_anglican

God bless you in your journey! I’m glad you found a parish with decent liturgy as well.


4 posted on 07/15/2008 12:51:01 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: trad_anglican
I'm in a new place and yet I'm finally HOME!

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:)

5 posted on 07/15/2008 12:52:24 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Cheverus
They sing at the Catholic Parish you attend?!!

LOL. I couldn't believe that we'd be singing Charles Wesley hymns. In most cases, the words are changed slightly (there seems to be an aversion to thees and thous - except during the Pater Noster). And not a guitar in sight. It's heavenly. In the truest sense of the word.

6 posted on 07/15/2008 12:55:42 PM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: trad_anglican

I was attending the TLM but the Archbishop is not a fan so the early one disappeared when they suppressed the Parish.

Going back to the one verse Dan Schutte has been the hardest part.

And in my opinion John Wesley is better than Charles, though Charles does have some good stuff.

I always say the best thing to come out of V2 was the willingness to steal good hymns from other Christians....though the Catholic writing has suffered.


7 posted on 07/15/2008 1:02:41 PM PDT by Cheverus
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To: sandyeggo

Amen, sister. If one wishes to be religious and Christian, the Roman church is the only appropriate choice.


9 posted on 07/15/2008 2:34:55 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: trad_anglican
"WOW! It's like this guy's been reading my mind. For an Anglican who truly believes himself to be a catholic, there is simply no other choice to be made. Though my own choice still is cause for some discomfort in my life, the sense of peace that I've found since making the swim is simply overwhelming. I'm driven practically to tears each and every Sunday morning."

Ditto the above COMPLETELY (born Episcopalian, Catholic by choice).

"Espcially when we sing hymns that I've sung all my life in Anglican churches. Now they take on a whole new meaning for me. I'm in a new place and yet I'm finally HOME!"

This is the only place where we differ--my Catholic parish uses the execrable OCP "Spirit and Song" hymnal (aka hootenanny hymns).

10 posted on 07/15/2008 2:48:54 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Thanks for posting Dr. Steenson’s speech. I was fortunate to hear him, and speak to him afterwards.

I loved his “imagine being taken to the woodshed by the Vicar of Christ” anecdote.

The pain I’d seen in his interviews on Stand Firm in Faith during the September, 2007 House of Bishops meeting was heart wrenching, and nearly brought me to tears. To see his mourning replaced with joy, and confidence since his swim across the Tiber was inspiring.


11 posted on 07/15/2008 2:53:02 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: Unam Sanctam

BTTT!


12 posted on 07/15/2008 2:56:01 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Cheverus

“Sing of Mary, pure and lowly, virgin mother undefiled ...”?

We did that in Vacation Bible School at our parish in Tullahoma, Tennessee. I think it’s in my Spanish music book (in translation) too - I’ll have to check. Nice easy melody for the congregation, and the Hispanic people would love the content.


13 posted on 07/15/2008 3:12:27 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Tax-chick's House of Herpets. We're basking - how about you?)
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To: NYer

For your ping list.


14 posted on 07/15/2008 3:29:46 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam

Compare the education of Dr. Steenson and Bishop Katharine Jefforts Schori:

Dr. Jeffrey Steenson-Education

D.Phil. (Theology), University of Oxford, (1979-83). Thesis: “Basil of Ancyra and the Reception of the Nicene Creed.”
M.Div., Harvard Divinity School (1976-78). Major: New Testament and Early Christianity.
M.A. (church history), Trinity Evangelical Divinity School (1974-76).
B.A. (history), Trinity College (1970-74).

Katharine Jefforts Schori- Education
B.S. degree in biology from Stanford University (1974), M.S. (1977) and Ph.D. (1983) in oceanography from Oregon State University
M.Div. from Church Divinity School of the Pacific (1994), and an honorary D.D. (2001) also from CDSP.


15 posted on 07/15/2008 3:33:29 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: Unam Sanctam; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
... could my church have produced a work so penetrating and comprehensive? No, it has neither the capacity nor the confidence to speak its mind in such a way. Why? Because it has deliberately cut itself off from the tradition.

Bears repeating!

16 posted on 07/15/2008 4:37:54 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: trad_anglican

**the sense of peace that I’ve found since making the swim is simply overwhelming.**

Welcome home!


17 posted on 07/15/2008 4:44:53 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Unam Sanctam
[A] late fourth century bronze lamp...Twin lights emerge from a ship that symbolizes the Church. In the bow of the ship is St. Paul, proclaiming the Gospel to the world. In the stern and on the rudder is St. Peter, steering the ship through the tumult.

I encourage everyone to click the link - there is the image included at the end of the PDF. The See of Peter continues to steer the rudder of the Church away from rough waters and into His Harbor!

18 posted on 07/15/2008 5:33:24 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: Wonder Warthog; trad_anglican
I think all us Tiber-Swimmers feel the same way.

We're so blessed in our parish to have really good music and a genius for a music director. I don't say that lightly -- he's a man with encyclopedic knowledge, he selects hymns and motets with excellent taste, and he plays the organ like an angel. Plus, he loves the English Renaissance composers, so we sing as much or more Byrd, Tallis, Bull, and Farrant as we did in our old ECUSA parish!

We sang this last Sunday. "O Sing Joyfully" by Adrian Batten (ca. 1591 - ca. 1637), Vicar-Choral at St. Paul's, London. How gorgeous is that?

If you look carefully, you can see where Master Batten carved his name into the wall of the chantry when he was a chorister at Westminster . . . .

19 posted on 07/15/2008 7:55:00 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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20 posted on 07/16/2008 8:16:19 AM PDT by Huber (And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. - John 1:5)
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