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Minnesota Professor Pledges to Desecrate Eucharist
Catholic League ^ | 7/10/2008 | n/a

Posted on 07/10/2008 7:28:58 AM PDT by Pyro7480

Paul Zachary Myers, a professor at the University of Minnesota Morris, has pledged to desecrate the Eucharist. He is responding to what happened recently at the University of Central Florida when a student walked out of Mass with the Host, holding it hostage for several days. Myers was angry at the Catholic League for criticizing the student. His post can be accessed from his faculty page on the university’s website.

Here is an excerpt of his July 8 post, “It’s a Frackin’ Cracker!”:

“Can anyone out there score me some consecrated communion wafers?” Myers continued by saying, “if any of you would be willing to do what it takes to get me some, or even one, and mail it to me, I’ll show you sacrilege, gladly, and with much fanfare. I won’t be tempted to hold it hostage (no, not even if I have a choice between returning the Eucharist and watching Bill Donohue kick the pope in the balls, which would apparently be a more humane act than desecrating a go*****ed cracker), but will instead treat it with profound disrespect and heinous cracker abuse, all photographed and presented here on the web.”

Catholic League president Bill Donohue responded as follows:

“The Myers blog can be accessed from the university’s website. The university has a policy statement on this issue which says that the ‘Contents of all electronic pages must be consistent with University of Minnesota policies, local, state and federal laws.’ One of the school’s policies, ‘Code of Conduct,’ says that ‘When dealing with others,’ faculty et al. must be ‘respectful, fair and civil.’ Accordingly, we are contacting the President and the Board of Regents to see what they are going to do about this matter. Because the university is a state institution, we are also contacting the Minnesota legislature.

“It is hard to think of anything more vile than to intentionally desecrate the Body of Christ. We look to those who have oversight responsibility to act quickly and decisively.”


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: academia; antithesim; atheism; catholic; catholicbashing; christophobia; desecration; eucharist; hatecrime; ignorance; minnesota; misotheism; moralabsolutes; tolerantleft
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To: Centurion2000
Yep. It's unpleasant / morally wrong but it's their freedom. The road you propose leads to theocracy.

Theft is hardly a freedom. Besides, we are about as far away from becoming a theocracy as possible. If anything the human secularlist have created an anti-theocracy.

141 posted on 07/10/2008 9:55:04 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Centurion2000
If you steal a host you are taking church property by fraud. You aren't given a host to do with it as you please. You are given it for specific religious purposes. If you are taking communion and don't believe the doctrine of that church you are there under false pretenses.
142 posted on 07/10/2008 9:55:08 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Centurion2000

“If Catholics want to make this large of a deal about this then why not take measures to stop someone from doing it? Like having the priest place the host in the petitioner’s mouth?”

So. Now you are involved in Catholic theology and practice?

What’s this about not being ruled by a theocracy, but the secular realm you speak from is telling us how to practice our faith?


143 posted on 07/10/2008 9:56:09 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR
That’s really stretching it. Common courtesy and civility has nothing to do with establishing a theocracy.

And you and other people here seem to realize that you cannot legislate morality, or common courtesy or civility.

Of course if dueling were legal this problem would get solved asap.

144 posted on 07/10/2008 9:57:15 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (A citizen using a weapon to shoot a criminal is the ultimate act of independence from government.)
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To: All

This guy is disgusting, even for an academic anti-religion university professor.


145 posted on 07/10/2008 9:57:44 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: OpusatFR
What’s this about not being ruled by a theocracy, but the secular realm you speak from is telling us how to practice our faith?

Telling no. Consider it a suggestion that's all.

146 posted on 07/10/2008 9:59:03 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (A citizen using a weapon to shoot a criminal is the ultimate act of independence from government.)
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To: Centurion2000
Let's step back and review the facts. A huy stole a host. The Cathlolic legue criticized him. The police were never involved.

Myers was angry at the Catholic League for criticizing the student

It seems to me the only free speech being attacked is that of the Catholic League.

147 posted on 07/10/2008 9:59:50 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Petronski

Hmmm. I teach college, and I have a blog.

While I state on my “about” page that I teach at a university, I don’t identify the university, and I’m not going to here.That just seems prudent.

As soon as he identified himself as a professor at University of Minnesota at Morris, he associated the university with his blog and needs to be more careful about what he says.


148 posted on 07/10/2008 9:59:52 AM PDT by murdoog (http://babydoc3.livejournal.com)
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To: murdoog

Very tightly argued.


149 posted on 07/10/2008 10:01:24 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Pyro7480

Although desecration is certainly a most serious action, it seems as though Christ, being Who He is, can as easily withdraw Himself from the accidental of the appearance of the wafer. “God is not mocked.” No matter what. When He was on earth, of course, it was foretold and fulfilled. Now, as Who He really is, I doubt that such “desecration” would do much more than to make a fool of this person. And, it might even move the Almighty to make an example of him. Happy thought, that...


150 posted on 07/10/2008 10:03:19 AM PDT by redhead (B-I-NGO...B-I-NGO...)
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To: Centurion2000

“And you and other people here seem to realize that you cannot legislate morality, or common courtesy or civility.

Of course if dueling were legal this problem would get solved asap”

Back up there partner. Is this professor or for that matter the student senator being arrested, sued, had criminal charges or other remedies to a felonious act pressed against them?

You keep talking about legislating morality and courtesy while no one has suggested it.


151 posted on 07/10/2008 10:03:53 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR
Back up there partner. Is this professor or for that matter the student senator being arrested, sued, had criminal charges or other remedies to a felonious act pressed against them?

You keep talking about legislating morality and courtesy while no one has suggested it.

Fair point.

152 posted on 07/10/2008 10:07:32 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (A citizen using a weapon to shoot a criminal is the ultimate act of independence from government.)
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To: Centurion2000; DManA; Petronski; sandyeggo
If you give someone the host, it becomes their personal property; THEY get to decide what to do with it.

A person is given the host contingent upon an understanding of terms. By not agreeing to those terms, the host is being appropriated under false pretenses by Myers types, and this constitutes fraud and theft.

Here's an analogy: a man goes to a free clinic complaining of horrible pain and is given morphine to ease his suffering. In reality, he is a recreational drug abuser who has lied in order to score some free morphine.

The latter individual is clearly a criminal. If the free clinic pressed charges - and if the free clinic was operated by the Catholic Church - would the decision to press charges constitute a theocratic act?

153 posted on 07/10/2008 10:07:37 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: All

I’d like to thank the majority of Christians on here, for standing behind God and Christ on this. The Protestants and Catholics have alot of differences. However, like international politcs and the waters’ edge; Christians should defend Christians of all faiths when it comes to secularist, anti-Christian, and anti-God communists.


154 posted on 07/10/2008 10:09:36 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: wideawake
Let me add this is not exclusively a Catholic issue. Even in Churches that don't believe transubstantiation consider the Eucharist as a potent symbol of their faith. A baptist would no sooner treat a communion wafer disrespectfully then they would play hockey with a cross.
155 posted on 07/10/2008 10:13:34 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Centurion2000

Of course one CAN legislate such matters. The university can impose these things on their employees as a condition of employment. This guy is an employee,identifies himself as such, and it is up to the university to compel him not to do this kind of thing.


156 posted on 07/10/2008 10:18:37 AM PDT by RobbyS (Ecce homo)
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To: Pyro7480

As far as I know there has been no proof offered that the student received any death threats. Has he produced any of these Emails, recorded any the calls? I am starting to doubt his tales.


157 posted on 07/10/2008 10:19:17 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Twinkie
When someone's free speech interferes with another's freedom to practice their religion, the speechafier is the aggressor and must back off.
158 posted on 07/10/2008 10:19:56 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Yeah I agree. Deliberate sacreligious disrespect towards a religion that does not wish you any ill is often accompanied by a disrespect for other forms of authority. The driving motive behind the UCF student who started all of this wasn’t just to show the Eucharist to a friend who had questions; he also wants to defund all religious clubs on campus in direct violation of the US constitution. His disrespectful “activism” has ramifications for all Christian clubs at UCF, including ones that I was a member of only 4 years ago.


160 posted on 07/10/2008 10:26:15 AM PDT by messierhunter
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