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To: lupie; annalex

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2040899/posts

Evidently went on for years and years.

I promise to ping you to all the new articles. If you want to find more that are already posted, ask annalex. he has a whole directory of old and new cases by denomination. Maybe he’ll post it on this thread.

And this thread is about protestants. I’ll dissect your other posts when I get around to it, but I have a date tonight. And tomorrow night. With a Baptist. He’s not an idiot, though. :D


50 posted on 07/04/2008 5:28:47 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne
Please do NOT ping me articles unless they show the criteria I asked for. That one was about one man in one place. Yes, it was over a period of years, but you missed the entire point. I asked for a widespread, international cover-up involving hundreds of cases. You are just giving what we have already said happens. I asked you for:

Can you please give facts, FR links and article links that show the widespread, worldwide, all the way up the corporate level that covers up and protects the abusers for years and years and years, knowing what they continue to do? And can you provide that same information for those church systems that only acted to remove the abusers from the presence of children because they were "found out" and the masses starting getting upset?

I already admit to individual pastors that are abusers. Please note what I am asking for: widespread, worldwide, all the way up the corporate level that covers up and protects the abusers for years and years and years, knowing what they continue to do? ... church systems

The link you gave does not fit any of those criteria, let alone all of them. You, not another poster made a claim that I called you to back up. Please do so and please do not list a ton of links all of once. Please list them individually so that we can see if it matches the above criteria before adding other.

There is a true saying among salespeople and others who are trying to "sell" their ideas.

If you can't dazzle them with your brillians, baffle them with your B.S.

To me, a long list of articles posted is the latter, especially when the credibility of previous ones have been questioned. So unless you provide credible articles that other Christian church systems has covered up to even a small percentage the RCC did with the abusers, then don't post any links. I will again repeat to you. It is NOT the fact that abuse occurs that is the major problem in the continual exposure of the RCC abusive priest issues, it is the disgusting cover-up by their superiors, to not remove them from the flock, to not protect the flock, but to just move the abusers to a fresh flock, over and over. THAT is the issues. THAT is why so many people not associated with the RCC, (and some that are RC) continue to speak out against this and will continue until a true widespread confession and repentance and change is seen. Which, from what I believe, is just not possible for the RCC. I pray that I am wrong about that not being possible though. With God, nothing is impossible.

55 posted on 07/04/2008 6:24:58 PM PDT by lupie
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