Posted on 06/30/2008 6:25:14 PM PDT by Utah Girl
Couldn’t begin to answer that question. I can tell you this, the HS is present in churches where the Triune God is worshiped. Not in some groups that denies such.
Shootin’ his own...
Fitting....
Well said.
Interesting source you selected, many interesting articles including...
http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/mormon.htm
It is also ironic that since your “prophet” damned all true Christian faiths as being from the devil and until the past couple of decades the idea of ridiculing the pastors from non mormon churches was part of your temple service, that you would select a trinitarian evangelical site for a resource...
Joe also told me the only joy he has in hell is laughing at the suckers who believed his tripe.
I have to agree with that. He was quite eloquent. It's a pity, though, that he had to throw so much untrue chaff in with a little wheat of truth.
Is this secret code?
Talmage said that the Holy Ghost "is a personage of Spirit" (A. of F., p.42; see D.& C. 130:22), but later he claimed an immaterial being or body cannot exist (Ibid., pp. 43, 48). Which is it?
The Holy Spirit is one of Father spirit children who has not yet been born into the earth life.
How can the HS be a god not having become mortal to learn the discipline of the ordinances and receive its physical body? Why doesn't the HS have a name like Jesus or Lucifer? Where does it say in the bom that the HS is a spirit child of god (Adam?), why couldn't it be from one of the other gods?
In the Lectures on Faith, published in the first edition of the Doctrine and Covenants in 1835, it was declared that there were only two personages in the Godheadthe Father and the Sonand that the Holy Spirit is the mind of the Father and the Son.
Milton R. Hunter said that the "crowning Gospel ordinance requisite for Godhood is celestial marriage ... obedience to this law is absolutely necessary in order to obtain the highest exaltation in the Kingdom of God" (The Gospel Through the Ages, pp.118-19). According to mormon theology, then, it would have been impossible for the Holy Ghost to have obtained Godhood, since he had no body with which to obey the law of "celestial marriage." In a revelation given by Joseph Smith we read: "Broad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the deaths; and many there are that go in thereat ..."(Doctrine and Covenants 132:25).
Brigham Young said that the devil was "a being without a body, whereas our God has a body, parts, and passions. The Devil was cursed and sent down from heaven. He has no body of his own...." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p.331). What did the HS do wrong to be denied a body?
Mormon apostle John Widtsoe said that the Holy Ghost "is the third member of the Godhead and is a personage, distinct from the Holy Spirit. As a personage, the Holy Ghost cannot any more than the Father and Son be everywhere present in person" (Widtsoe, Evidences and Reconciliations, pp. 76-77).
If you know the truth and are deceiving others, that is very bad. As it is, you have either been deceived or you are deceiving.
Well F, problem is I don't know which mormon doctrine on the Holy Spirit is the real doctine. Here you have a spirit child without going through the ordinances or celestial marriage becoming a god without a body, taught to be either a mind or a spirit enitity then being separated from the Holy Ghost! Which teaching is real so I know which one to be deceptive with!
From what I have read on seen so far, I haven't seen a true Christian who is against Mormonism. I've seen a lot of blather and bigotry from a lot of scudders her who wouldn't know a real Christian if he saw one.
BTTT
You pick........
Brillianht rejoinder if I ever saw one.
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