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Should Scientism be considered a religion on Free Republic?
June 30, 2008 | Kevmo

Posted on 06/30/2008 4:41:23 PM PDT by Kevmo

The crevo threads typically degenerate into name calling. Recently, the Religion Moderator declared that "science is not religion", and did not publish the criteria for such consideration. My suggestion to the evolutionist community has been to acknowledge that Scientism is a religion and start to utilize the protections offered under the religion tags that are different than other threads (due to the intensity of feelings over religious issues). So this thread is intended to be an ECUMENICAL thread under the tag of SCIENTISM. The intent is to keep discussion civil.

I would like to see a straightforward discussion over the topic of whether scientism should be treated as a religion on FR. I'll try to find the links to the adminlecture series about what the ground rules are on ecumenical threads, and I'll copy some recent interactions that show the need for scientism to be treated as a religion on FR.


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KEYWORDS: ecumenical; mysterybabylon; religion; science; scientism
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To: Kevmo

Science is not a religion.


490 posted on 07/30/2012 6:18:45 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Kevmo

It’s fun to read these old posts.


491 posted on 07/30/2012 6:26:05 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Salvation

But Scientism is.


492 posted on 07/30/2012 6:29:12 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: annalex

It’s fun to read these old posts.
***I agree. I see that we were discussing your idea of an ‘academic or Focused’ thread approach. What I said was, “Judging from the behavior on this thread, I don’t think an academic or Focused thread would work.” I see that there is even more evidence of that conclusion, even though I have even more desire for such a thread. What do you think?


493 posted on 07/30/2012 6:32:37 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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We don’t know if such threads would work, because we haven’t tried.


494 posted on 07/30/2012 6:40:30 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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How do we try, unless the mods agree? The religion mod is the only one who’s been working on what I called earlier, “his bag of tools”. Unless you have some way of getting the mods to go along?


495 posted on 07/30/2012 6:53:00 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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I don’t believe so. What are you backing up that claim with?


496 posted on 07/30/2012 6:57:58 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Upthread we discussed it.

Would you agree with the following precept? Anything that you put your faith in can be a religion.

People have been putting their faith into science. That means it is, as we discussed upthread, a nascent religion.

I prefer to look for the bible for clues. I suggest you search upthread for Mystery Babylon as a major inductive bible clue.


497 posted on 07/30/2012 7:06:05 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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Who puts their faith in science? It is always changing.


498 posted on 07/30/2012 7:50:50 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Here's the deal. LENR is a theory or invention but not a belief like dispensationalism, Catholicism, etc. It would not qualify for a Religion Forum caucus or ecumenical thread.

Scientism per se could be called a belief and therefore would qualify.

Your antagonists on this thread have broken a number of Religion Forum guidelines for "ecumenical" threads - including attributing motive, mind reading, making it personal, carrying disputes over from other threads and antagonism which is not allowed on RF threads labeled "ecumenical."

Everyone: discuss the issues all you want, but DO NOT make it personal.

Click here for more guidelines to the Religion Forum.

499 posted on 07/30/2012 8:09:40 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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Who puts their faith in science?
***Plenty. Even some here on FR. For instance, there was a whole group of Freepers who started Darwin Central as a breakoff. Basically, a bunch of scientism believers.


500 posted on 07/30/2012 8:13:05 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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