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Faithful Citizenship: “Catholic Vote” is very sought after
http://www.catholicexchange.com/2008/06/11/112802/ ^ | Mickey Addison

Posted on 06/11/2008 6:48:38 PM PDT by Salvation

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Pro-life ping for this election.

How will you vote?

1 posted on 06/11/2008 6:48:38 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; sandyeggo; Lady In Blue; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; Catholicguy; RobbyS; ...
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“Human life is sacred.  The dignity of the human person is the foundation of a moral vision for society.  Direct attacks on innocent persons are never morally acceptable, at any stage or in any condition.  In our society, human life is especially under direct attack from abortion. 
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Obama supports abortion, even partial birth abortion. No Catholic at all can vote for him. Catholics MUST always vote pro-life.

2 posted on 06/11/2008 6:51:39 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Open thread.


3 posted on 06/11/2008 6:52:32 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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4 posted on 06/11/2008 6:53:47 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
I will vote pro-life, as always.


5 posted on 06/11/2008 6:57:18 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Peregrine, patron saint of cancer patients, pray for us.)
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To: Salvation
"Obama supports abortion, even partial birth abortion. No Catholic at all can vote for him. Catholics MUST always vote pro-life." ... Tom 'dungheap' Harkin, Barbara Boxer, Ted 'the swimmer' Kennedy ... the list of democrats claiming to be catholics, who are as leftist as Barry Obama on abortion, is too long, and they get voted back into office election after election by people claiming to be 'good Catholics'. The reality is sadly far from what the head of the Catholic Church directs, and defending and promoting the slaughter of alive, sensing unborn people antithetical to Christ's Grace which is ignored because the voice of The Holy Spirit is being ignored. As a nation, we are paying for this evil and will be called to pay far more than people would like to know.
6 posted on 06/11/2008 7:01:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Salvation

This defines the very issue I am having right now with a few liberal Catholics who refuse to see a hierarchy of values. They pose the straw-man that you have to choose between A (a child molesting, polluter and poor employer who is pro life) and B (a adopting, environmentalist who cares for his/her workers but it pro-choice). Obviously A doesn’t exist, but they use that to justify their B.


7 posted on 06/11/2008 7:03:25 PM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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You listed a lot of CINOs there. Thanks. What they are doing is excommunicating themselves.

enter the Table of Contents of the Catechism of the Catholic Church here

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1 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion,
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2271.htm
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2 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2272.htm
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2 From its conception, the child has the right to life. Direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, is a "criminal" practice (GS 27 § 3),
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2322.htm
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gravely opposed to the moral law when this is done with the thought of possibly inducing an abortion, depending upon the results: a diagnosis must not be the equivalent
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2274.htm

8 posted on 06/11/2008 7:06:11 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Hopefully I got the links fixed so that they don’t run together. Sorry.


9 posted on 06/11/2008 7:07:26 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: MHGinTN

For even more CINOs go to:

http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/ > Dissent> Speakers and Authors


10 posted on 06/11/2008 7:08:56 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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I moved from a low-religion area (WA state) to a higher-relgion area (NY) a bit over a year ago, and my experience is that it makes no difference what religion people culturally identify with. I'm surrounded by Catholic-this, and Catholic-that, but people here still treat each other like crap on the highways, are still deeply prejudiced, and are less polite and decent than the Northwesterners I left behind who didn't wear their religion on their sleeves.

They're just as willing here to vote Rat, even though they profess to be Catholic. It's just something they do because their parents and grandparents did it, more of an ethnic pride thing. We got rid of that in the NW, too, I've heard more names that the Irish call the Italians (and vice-versa) than I ever did back in WA.

11 posted on 06/11/2008 7:15:17 PM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: hunter112

Thanks for your eye-opening perspective.


12 posted on 06/11/2008 7:16:50 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
You're welcome. I grew up Catholic, and am familiar with most of the practices, but I guess when I moved from Indiana, I might have been too young (13) to notice the hypocrisy. Or, maybe the thirty-seven years I spent in WA allowed East Coast Catholics a chance to become hypocrites over the last few decades. Democrats aren't Jack Kennedy anymore, they're baby killers, and why people who call themselves Catholics don't see that, I'll never understand.
13 posted on 06/11/2008 7:22:28 PM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: hunter112

You said it better than I could have.

**Democrats aren’t Jack Kennedy anymore, they’re baby killers, and why people who call themselves Catholics don’t see that, I’ll never understand.**

When one looks at the Catechism of the Catholic Church and sees that anyone who even assists (in any way) with an abortion is excommunicated..............it tries my brains to try to figure out why these Catholics can’t see the truth.

No Obama vote for me.


14 posted on 06/11/2008 7:27:46 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation; hunter112

Dittos


15 posted on 06/11/2008 8:40:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Salvation

The other day, a freeper was trying to claim that Catholics can vote for a proabort IF that candidate’s position on abortion is not the reason for the support-as if a candidate can be a good guy when he’s not advocating the brutal torture and dismemberment of thousands of innocent babies each day.


16 posted on 06/11/2008 8:49:53 PM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day

NEVER can a Catholic support a candidate who breaks one of the Ten Commandments.

“Thou shalt not kill.”

Tell them that.


17 posted on 06/11/2008 8:52:50 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

This whole “Catholic vote” is a myth. You have those who go to Mass on a regular basis and those who are cafeteria CINOS, then you have Irish/Italian ethnic Catholics whose ancestors went through Ellis Island or earlier and the Latino Catholics who sneaked across the border. These groups besides maybe going to the same overall church have nothing in common.


18 posted on 06/11/2008 8:53:32 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: hunter112

Had to leave the table when my wife’s elderly mother and aunt, both of whom volunteer at their parish, voted for Hitlery. Another older female friend, a small college professor, just left the Church over sexism.

The Church is reliant on women, but it is losing them.


19 posted on 06/11/2008 9:00:11 PM PDT by Soliton
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To: Salvation

Oh, several of us responded, but the freeper did not return- a hit and run lie about Church teaching.


20 posted on 06/11/2008 9:00:47 PM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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