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To: Zetman
sor·ti·lege (sôr'tl-ĭj) pronunciation n. 1. The act or practice of foretelling the future by drawing lots. 2. Sorcery; witchcraft. ,I disagree.And the church does not teach that.Yes people make deals with Satan but no-one can put a spell over you.
42 posted on 06/06/2008 11:00:04 PM PDT by fatima (Pray.for Jim,founder of this forum.)
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To: fatima
Yes people make deals with Satan but no-one can put a spell over you.

Many Catholic Clergy seem to disagree with you on that point, at least to a certain point. Monsignor Cristiani talks about sortilege, and other demonic manifestions in his book (he mentions different things in addition to sortilege, such as infestations, and familiars, in addition to outright attack and possession). He certainly said in his tome that sortilege is possible, and described an incident which he said had occurred in the previous century, according to local Church records.

However, if I recall correctly, the sortileges he spoke of were afflictions that were cast upon a hapless victim, as opposed to the victim being compelled to do something against their will, and without their consent. That may be the difference.

As I said above, I am by no means an expert like Cristiani, Father Amorth, or Father Euteneuer. However, many Catholic clergy do seem to believe that there is indeed "something" to the idea of sortilege (even if there is no "official" church teaching upon the subject - something that I admit that I do not know either way). This may be one reason why we are not to have anything to do with paganism or witchcraft - we will just invite more of the same into our lives.

At the end of the day, I don't want to have anything to do with ANY of it. I keep my eyes on God, try to do His will, go to Confession and Communion, Serve Low Mass, and try to stay on the right path. That is MORE than enough to keep me occupied right there!!

: )

45 posted on 06/07/2008 1:04:53 AM PDT by Zetman
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To: fatima

no-one can put a spell over you
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Actually it’s by suggestion and fear...

If a person believes that the witchdoctor has power, he will psychologically accept whatever “spell” is cast..

People have actually died through fear because a spell of “death” was placed upon them..


48 posted on 06/07/2008 7:46:07 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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