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To: Marysecretary
Christianity in Europe is taking a hit because of the socialistic and communistic secular viewpoints they have. But I do believe there will be a revival in those nations. God’s not done with them yet. We kinda forget Him sometimes when we talk about religion. He’s still working. He still has a love and a purpose for all nations.

How do you know all this?

More importantly, why did He not cause such "revival" all around the very cradle of Christianity so that all those lands became and have been mohammedan for fifteen hundred years now?

492 posted on 05/29/2008 4:01:58 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: papertyger

I’m a believer in the prophetic and there have been many prophecies over the past few years regarding different countries.

You’ll have to ask God why he didn’t save all the mohammedans. But it may well have been His purpose not to so that end times prophecy could happen. Dunno. Lots of things are mysteries and will remain so until His return.


653 posted on 05/30/2008 7:25:02 AM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: papertyger
More importantly, why did He not cause such "revival" all around the very cradle of Christianity so that all those lands became and have been mohammedan for fifteen hundred years now?

Need to point out the Historical inaccuracy -- Egypt, Jordan, Israel, Turkey, Syria were all nearly 100% Christian at teh time of the Muslim invasions in the 7th century. They remained nearly 90% Christian until the 9th century when the Ummayyad CAliphate was overthrown by the Abbasid. The Ummayyads were Sunni Caliphs

The Abbasids were also Quaraishi, but more importantly, claimed direct descent from Mohammed. .

Fyi: after the death of Muhammed there was a Muslim civili war over who woudl be the new head of their Empire/Religion (there is/was no separation of Mosque and state in Islam -- the Caliph is the head priest and Emperor).B
Bukhari was the first Caliph after Muhammed and then 3 other companions. All the while, Muhammed's son-in-law Hussein Ali, wasaiting in the wings. ali became the fourth Caliph after Uthman Ibn Affan.

He was attacked and killed while praying in the mosque at Kufa near Najaf in Iraq.

Then, his son, Imam Hasan said he wanted the throne and so was killed \by muawiyah who was the Calioph and wanted the Caliphate for his (Mu'awiyah's) son. Finally, Hsan's bro, Hussein, grandson of Muhammed, was killed in a battle near the modern day Iraqi city of Karbala and he became a "martyr" (fancy martyr, eh? dying while trying to capture power) so that' shwy Karbala and it's mosque is holy land for Shia's

Anyway, so the Ummayyads won and they kept hte idea that the Arabs are the Chosen people and they discouraged conversions (as, in Islam, there is a definite caste system: on top are descendents of Mohammed, next come all Arabs, finally at the bottom are non-Arabs). The Abbassids were supported by Mawalis (non-Arabs) and encouraged conversions.

ok, I'm getting to my point (finally!) -- and that is that the conversions didn't really start until the 9th and 10 th centuries and even until the 19th century, a large minority were Christian. Many have since then fled to the West -- most of the "arabs" in the US are Christian Arabs.
1,052 posted on 05/31/2008 6:28:06 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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