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To: Mad Dawg
If the problem is that we think that those in communion with the Holy See have something good that other groups do not have, then I can't help it. That's what we think. Why else would one join the Catholic Church, for the guitar Masses?

Guitar Masses? I can think of many reasons to join the Catholic church that doesn't necessarily reject other Christians. The Catholic church has history and ritual to it that many find comforting. It has well-established teachings that are clarified and expounded on to the finest detail. It has a worldwide network and hierarchical structure that can answer questions about faith as good as humanly possible. But it also has well-publicized moral and ethical failings that preclude it from being perfection on Earth.

375 posted on 05/29/2008 12:13:23 PM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: dan1123
I can think of many reasons to join the Catholic church that doesn't necessarily reject other Christians.

Who said anything about rejecting other Christians? And who said anything about perfection?

We have to make some distinctions or we can't get anywhere. Right now it looks like you can say we're mistaken on certain points of doctrine and that's NOT rejection, but when we say you are that IS rejection. I'll guess that's not what you mean, but I don't get what you DO mean.

383 posted on 05/29/2008 12:24:21 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: dan1123
"But it also has well-publicized moral and ethical failings that preclude it from being perfection on Earth."

You expect "perfection on earth"??? I assume you claim to be from a "Bible-believing church". If so, then you somehow missed the part about "weeds being found among the grain" (i.e. the Church is not, can not, and never will be, perfect on this earth). Catholics understand this.

387 posted on 05/29/2008 12:31:35 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: dan1123; Mad Dawg
But it also has well-publicized moral and ethical failings that preclude it from being perfection on Earth.

Oh, we aren't -- however, God keeps His Church on the right track. We have had bad priests and Pope before, but each time, God comes to His Church to clean i tup -- from the inside. You think we didn't have reformers IN the Church? We did -- St. Francis for one, St. Ignatius Loyola for another.

Where the Church does extend above the Protestant groups is that we are not man-made, with doctrine being created and preached by only one man, one pastor -- our teachings are from Christ, our Church doctors are those from the past 2000 years.
1,046 posted on 05/31/2008 6:01:37 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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