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To: vladimir998

You wrote:

“What? So, because you can bring up papal bulls that make YOU feel uncomfortable you think we should stop telling the truth about “Reformed believers”?

Oh, please!”

Don’t you realize that many Protestant groups and Roman Catholic groups have the same secular goals? That as a Reformed believer, my entire denominations was based pretty much on anti-Roman Catholicism, but yet I am still more than willing to work with my fellow Christian brothers to spread God’s word? What truth are you talking about, that Reformed believers were subject to the Spanish Inquisition?

I had ancestors in the Netherlands under Spain in the north. They were subject to the Inquisition even though they were faithful Roman Catholics at the time, because the pope said it was good for that to happen.

Just be careful. There’s a lot of mud on both sides everyone can bring up, and there’s a bigger problem out there: Islam and other religions. We might not be sure of one another’s salvation, but we can be much more sure of the status of other religions’ final destination. Would you rather convert someone that already believes in Christ to Roman Catholicism, or convert someone we both agree is in danger of eternal damnation?


46 posted on 05/26/2008 6:18:54 AM PDT by figgers3036
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To: figgers3036
Would you rather convert someone that already believes in Christ to Roman Catholicism, or convert someone we both agree is in danger of eternal damnation?

From some of their postings, I would say the first.

53 posted on 05/26/2008 6:26:29 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: figgers3036

You wrote:

“Don’t you realize that many Protestant groups and Roman Catholic groups have the same secular goals?”

True, and exactly how is that material to what we’re discussing?

“That as a Reformed believer, my entire denominations was based pretty much on anti-Roman Catholicism, but yet I am still more than willing to work with my fellow Christian brothers to spread God’s word?”

Look, you just admitted your denomination is a denomination and not a Church, that your denomination is based on anti-Catholicism and not Christ and then you claim you want to co-operate with us in spreading God’s word? Do you see any problems there? Seriously, I’m not trying to pick on you here, but do you see some logical problems with the implications of your statement?

“What truth are you talking about, that Reformed believers were subject to the Spanish Inquisition?”

What? I don’t even understand what you’re asking now.

“I had ancestors in the Netherlands under Spain in the north. They were subject to the Inquisition even though they were faithful Roman Catholics at the time, because the pope said it was good for that to happen.”

What’s your proof for that and why would it matter in any case?

“Just be careful. There’s a lot of mud on both sides everyone can bring up, and there’s a bigger problem out there: Islam and other religions.”

Please cease warning me of things I have absolutely no fear about. 1) Throw all the mud you like. I do not fear mud. 2) Protestantism is, I believe, one of the main reasons why we are facing a threat from Islam now. If there had been no Protestantism, there would have been no great rise in atheism, agnosticism, modernism, liberalism - all of which open the gates for the Western collapse before Islam.

“We might not be sure of one another’s salvation, but we can be much more sure of the status of other religions’ final destination. Would you rather convert someone that already believes in Christ to Roman Catholicism, or convert someone we both agree is in danger of eternal damnation?”

I have no problem against doing both. And it is clear that the latter would be more likely to happen if the former were accomplished. What would be the chances of Islam if Christians were all united? And I mean TRULY UNITED.


71 posted on 05/26/2008 6:52:49 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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