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This Rock ^ | March 1992 | By Patrick Madrid

Posted on 05/22/2008 9:39:21 AM PDT by colorcountry

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To: dangus

Not only did Joseph Smith marry as many wives as he wanted, he married several wives that were already married to other men simultaneously. Records of Joseph Smith, from the LDS site, http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/AF/individual_record.asp?recid=7762167&lds=0&frompage=99

You are mistaken dangus is your suggestion that Joseph Smith wasn’t involved in polygamy, or are you rLDS?


21 posted on 05/22/2008 11:19:28 AM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: colorcountry; svcw

What I MEANT was that Joe Smith’s promotion of polygamy was overturned.


22 posted on 05/22/2008 11:25:30 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Oh, sorry.


23 posted on 05/22/2008 11:32:08 AM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: dangus
Yea.
I find that interesting since he is the (alleged) prophet of god, how he gets over turned on his revelations.
I was huhing on the question = I am flds.
24 posted on 05/22/2008 11:39:23 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: colorcountry
The Apostle Paul wrote: "Unto Him (God) be glory in the Church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end Amen" (Eph. 3:21). Could that be true if there was a universal apostasy of the church for several centuries? Jesus also said, "Upon this Rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" (Matt. 16:18). Notice that it is Christ Himself (not mortal men) who builds His church or adds to it (Acts 2:47), and Christ has all power in heaven and in earth (Matt. 28:18; Rev. 19:6). LDS often claim that the true church must be built upon the foundation of apostles and prophets, as Eph 2:20 says. This is commented upon later in this chapter under the sub-title, "Apostles." But Paul wrote, "...other foundation can no man lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ" (I Cor. 3:11). Since Jesus Christ is the Foundation of the church, He is also part of the church! Could that church "collapse" or become extinct when the omnipotent Christ is the Foundation of it? Is it possible for Christ to lose "the church of God which He hath purchased with His own blood" (Acts 20:28; Eph. 5:25)? Christ is called the "Good Shepherd" in John 10:11. But, any shepherd who loses all his sheep is not a very good shepherd!

Jesus must bear some responsibility for the existence of the church since God "gave Him to be head over all things to the church" (Eph. 1:22). The Lord Himself also nourishes (feeds) and cherishes (lovingly cares for) the church (Eph. 5:29). Jesus never told anyone else to go build His church. Instead, He declared, "I will build my church" (Matt. 16:18). And after He ascended into heaven, Acts 2:47 declares, "And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved." He needed no successor to build His church because He lives forever (Heb. 7:24-25). That is why Col. 1:18 declares, "He is the head of the body, the church." Notice the present tense verb is used which shows that Jesus was still Head of His church even though He had ascended to heaven many years before that was written! And Jesus is still the Head of His Church and He is adding members to it today!

http://www.utlm.org/onlinebooks/mclaims7.htm#UNIVERSAL%20APOSTASY

25 posted on 05/22/2008 12:31:17 PM PDT by Godzilla (Decaffeinated coffee is like faith without works.)
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To: Revelation 911

This isn’t an ecumenic thread, it is ecunemic. LOL, I just notice my misspelling in the headline.


26 posted on 05/22/2008 12:38:06 PM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: colorcountry
"This isn’t an ecumenic thread, it is ecunemic."

Is that anything like being anemic?? If anemia is a lack of iron in the blood, what is ecunemia a lack of???

27 posted on 05/22/2008 12:43:58 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: colorcountry
This isn’t an ecumenic thread, it is ecunemic. LOL, I just notice my misspelling in the headline.

Well, since it's not ecumenic but ecunemic instead, then I guess it's safe.

So why would God allow people to wallow along without the truth of how to be saved for 1700 years before He tells them the right way to Himself, I wonder?

28 posted on 05/22/2008 12:45:23 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
If anemia is a lack of iron in the blood, what is ecunemia a lack of???

A lack of ecumenics perhaps? There is a word "unemics," but the definition is medical. I'm too stupid to understand it...

:-)

29 posted on 05/22/2008 12:55:15 PM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: metmom

1700 YEARS of people wandering in the wilderness, just waiting for a man such as Joseph Smith to arrive perhaps? I don’t have a clear answer for you.


30 posted on 05/22/2008 1:10:22 PM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: colorcountry

woo hoo - its not ecumenic -let the invectives and personal insults fly like the unwashed pigs we apostates are


31 posted on 05/22/2008 1:12:13 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911
The typo in the title has been fixed.

This thread is "ecumenic." It is closed to all “anti” arguments.

Posters may express the beliefs they are “for” but not those they are “against.” They may also ask questions.

Posters who try to tear down other’s beliefs – or use subterfuge to accomplish the same goal – are the disrupters on ecumenic threads and will be booted from the thread and/or suspended.

32 posted on 05/22/2008 1:19:21 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: metmom
What's safe to say on this thread?

Evidently NOT what was said at #10 and #20!!!

33 posted on 05/22/2008 1:32:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Revelation 911

Not so fast....It looks like the mod fixed the title.

Thank you mod, and I apologize for my post that was removed at #10. Yep it was me, forgot the rules on my own ecumenic thread. Oops

(now I have myself second guessing if it was me at post #20)


34 posted on 05/22/2008 1:36:37 PM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Elsie

LOL.


35 posted on 05/22/2008 1:37:39 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Welcome back, Nana!

Okay, fess; what’d ya’ do on vacation? Get yer’ nails done? Tune the garage? Paint the truck? Attack Tehran with an ICBM sporkweasel?... FReepers wanna know!


36 posted on 05/22/2008 1:50:37 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Enosh

FReepers will have to wait...

I just got home from last day of school ice cream from Baskin-Robbins and playing in the park with the grands..

and tonight..

I have tickets for the 7:15 showing of Indy on the Mega screen...

Harrison Ford still looks good...

:)


37 posted on 05/22/2008 2:53:33 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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BTTT


38 posted on 05/22/2008 3:50:58 PM PDT by Godzilla (Decaffeinated coffee is like faith without works.)
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To: Religion Moderator

i hope you realize i was joking in my 31


39 posted on 05/22/2008 4:24:02 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Enosh

Now Ah kin tell ya...

Ah dun did all gal stuff

:)


40 posted on 05/22/2008 6:51:54 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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