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“Protestant groups display a wide variety of different doctrines. However, virtually all claim to believe in the teachings of sola scriptura (”by Scripture alone”—the idea that we must use only the Bible when forming our theology)”
To believe otherwise is to confer genuiness (is that even a word) on things like the “Book of Mormon.”
Hilaire Belloc also considered Islam to be a “peculiar heresy”.
Another that was condemned just over 100 years ago is Modernism.
“To commit heresy, one must refuse to be corrected. A person who is ready to be corrected or who is unaware that what he has been saying is against Church teaching is not a heretic.”
What if I listen to all the things that I, a non-Catholic am doing wrong and still refuse to then become Catholic, believing it to be wrong-headed and depending too much on tradition and extra-biblical texts?
That isn't true - the Church teaches "by the Teachings of Christ and the Apostles alone," so to speak. We include Sacred Tradition with Sacred Scripture, both sides of the same coin - the Oral teachings and the Written teachings. The Book of Mormon is an attempt to create new Scripture, while Tradition is unbroken since the time of the Apostles.
It’s amazing how many of these heresies, even the most ancient, are still around to some degree.
When Jesus needed an answer, he always went to the Word and not to traditions, which he often condemned. That is good enough for me.
He was correct. Just had this discussion with my pastor over the weekend. Islam stems from a monk who did not believe in the divine nature of Jesus Christ. That did not stop him from proselitizing the Arabs who worshipped many gods. He taught them that there is but one God. The first part of the Qu'uran ends with the writer saying that God's inspiration for his writings ended at a certain point. That would have been when the monk died. The 2nd part of the Qu'uran is more of a political book on how to rid the world of those infidels who do not preach and practice the one God (the word Allah means God but the Muslims have twisted the word into also being the name of God). Wish I could provide more details. It was a lengthy and fascination discussion. And, oh yes, my pastor is from the Middle East.
I would say you aren’t a Heretic, because truly teaching the Church requires more than just a statement of fact. The Catholic Church condemns the use of contraception, but if all I tell you is that you can’t use contraception, have I really “taught or corrected” you. In our sound-bite culture, we take the short road, rather than the real work required for it.
Same for witness and evangelization, all too often we take the easy way.
Ping for later
I’ve always wondered, how does someone go about making themselves believe something?
Calling Protestantism heresy is a pant load. No more heretical than a church that recites liturgy and recitations when the Bible clearly states do not pray in meaningless repetition and without emotion. Also by what right do certain men think that their interpretation of the Bible is better than anyone else?
Sheesh do certain people ever get tired of being so paranoid and arrogant at the same time that they condemn other believers that follow only the Bible to make themselves feel better?
Calling Protestantism heresy is a pant load. No more heretical than a church that recites liturgy and recitations when the Bible clearly states do not pray in meaningless repetition and without emotion. Also by what right do certain men think that their interpretation of the Bible is better than anyone else?
Sheesh do certain people ever get tired of being so paranoid and arrogant at the same time that they condemn other believers that follow only the Bible to make themselves feel better?
So there you have it, contrary to what has been said on other threads, Protestants are heretics.
If Rome could get away with it, we’d be burned at the stake, like the “heretics” of old.
Thank you.
>>What if I listen to all the things that I, a non-Catholic am doing wrong and still refuse to then become Catholic, believing it to be wrong-headed and depending too much on tradition and extra-biblical texts?<<
I would say that men can say whatever they want, but in the long run, none of us truly know the Mind of Our Lord.
It’s not up to me, is it?
Yup, WE’RE the heretics for “the doubt or denial involved in heresy must concern a matter that has been revealed by God and solemnly defined by the Church (for example, the Trinity, the Incarnation, the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, the sacrifice of the Mass, the pope’s infallibility, or the Immaculate Conception and Assumption of Mary).”
Yup - those fables of man that the RCC has declared to be of God - they MUST be of God because the man in the religious garb has said so. And if you don’t accept that man’s declarations - he stands in the place of God don’t ya know - let ye be anathema!
Praise be to the one true God of Isaac, Jacob, and Abraham that He is not bound in the religious traps and trappings of man’s wicked mind.
To commit heresy, one must refuse to be corrected. A person who is ready to be corrected or who is unaware that what he has been saying is against Church teaching is not a heretic
If Rome could get away with it, we’d be burned at the stake, like the “heretics” of old.
That's a jump in reasoning if I ever saw one.
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