Posted on 05/19/2008 5:38:23 PM PDT by netmilsmom
To follow-up, Thanks to all the wonderful Non-catholics who said that Catholics were Christians, this post is for the Catholics to chime in.
Do you think Protestants are Brothers and Sisters in Christ? Are Protestants Christians?
And to you too!!!
Isn’t it nice, just like the other thread, that those filled with Christ’s Love are all over.
And those who seem to be lacking (IMO) are jumping right in.
There are many ways one can cease being a Christian.
We consider baptism necessary, but not sufficient for salvation. Many baptized persons will fall.
There are 12 points in the Apostles’ Creed, and a body of doctrine which Catholics must accept in order remain Catholic.
People like Kennedy and Pelosi and Kerry, who were apparently validly baptized, excommunicated themselves by publicly promoting abortion. Unless they publicly denounce that abomination, they are outside the Catholic Church.
Since they have put themselves outside of the Catholic Church by their own arrogant and blasphemous actions, they cannot be considered Christian or Catholic.
They do not seek Christ’s will, but their own.
We all know the struggles of the world and the struggles to maintain lives that reflect God’s expectations for us.
The Eucharist does strengthen our souls, and aids us in doing God’s will.
When Jesus told the people about the Eucharist (John 6:35-40), many of them were shocked. They knew what He was saying, and many did not believe Him.
So, He repeated Himself (John 6:41-51).
The Jews continued to argue: “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” “So Jesus said to them,
Truly,truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you,
he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him.
As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me. ....”(John 6: 52-59)
Many of Jesus’ followers got His meaning, but would not accept it. So, they left. Jesus chastised the group, and asked the apostles if they, too, would leave Him over His teaching on the Eucharist. But, the twelve remained.
(John 6:60-71)
Thanks for a good, thoughtful response.
Grace to you
Peace of Christ be with you.
The Catholic objections to Masonry, in addition to the things CRI identifies, include additionally that continental European Masons have long been very anti-Catholic and anti-clerical. (The Mexican government which executed Catholic priests in the 1920's was heavily dominated by Masons.)
Calling the Knights the "masons of the Catholic Church"? Well, if you think the Masons are just a somewhat silly men's club, I suppose there would be some validity to that. However, the Knights are very pro-Catholic and emphatically do not teach another religion. The same cannot be said of the Masons.
So you pick out what you liked about verses 60-71 and threw the rest away, eh??? You trying to fool someone into believing that there was nothing else there, or maybe you don't read the scriptures and just copy what your church tells you to copy???
No, dear, I threw nothing away.
However, I did paraphrase in the interest of space.
Please feel free to type out John 6: verses 35 through 71 for all to see them in their entirety.
In fact, it would be really nice if you also typed out John 6: 25-34 which leads up to Jesus’ institution of the Holy Eucharist.
In fact, why not type out all of John, chapter 6?
This way, we will have the Institution of the Most Holy Eucharist explained in its fuller context, as the spiritual nourishment of the Body of Christ being of necessary and greater value than bodily nourishment?
Until you get this verse that you and all other Catholics avoid, you'll never get the rest of John 6...
You would be wise to put that verse back into the context in which it was given us rather than memorize a verse out of the context in which Jesus gave it merely to perpetuate a man’s noncontextual and inaccurate interpretation of it.
Of course.
Christians with cataracts but, yes, really Christians- so long as we are not talking about critters such as Universalist-Unitarians and such.
If an individual has been validly baptized, then that person is a Christian.
If an individual is able to confess the Faith, as stated in the Creed First Ecumenical Council of Constantinople-Nicea, then that individual is a professing Christian.
If that individual endeavors to live his life in accordance with the Gospel (to whatever the degree the individual does so is irrelevant), then that individual is a practicing Christian.
Please note that whether the person is in communion with the Bishop of Rome was not listed as one of the criteria.
That is exactly the point. Those who were once Catholic and have gone schismatic or have apostatized are the ones in peril; those who were reared outside of the Church have (in the vast majority of the cases) invincible ignorance.
Is one’s “faith formation lacking” if one was Catholic originally?
“I’ve never seen the Masons attack the Catholic church...”
Are you a Mason?
I am amazed by these comments. The impression I got on this forum is that Catholics do not. I am delighted! I consider Catholics Christians btw.
I am amazed by these comments. The impression I got on this forum is that Catholics do not. I am delighted! I consider Catholics Christians btw.Many are the lies, half-truths and calumnies told about Catholics and our Church. Thanks to netmilsmom you and many can see the truth in this issue.
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