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Priest bans autistic child from church
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| May 19, 2008
Posted on 05/19/2008 9:26:54 AM PDT by Between the Lines
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To: Between the Lines
Sorry, but the kid does sound like he certainly is causing dangerous situations, and the parents are unwilling to accept the realities of this. I feel for them, but I don’t believe the church is out of line based on the history of behavior alledged and admitted to by the parents.
To: Between the Lines
This may be necessary, but I wish they would also ban Pelosi, Kennedy and all the other pro-abortion “Catholics” from Communion. (BTW, I hear the KC Archbishop did just that with the Rat Kansas governor!)
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posted on
05/19/2008 9:32:11 AM PDT
by
CedarDave
(Obama: We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees ...)
To: Between the Lines
IF the child is truly disruptive, the parents should have sense enough to keep him out of the services.
Their rights (and their son’s rights) end where the rights of others begin.
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posted on
05/19/2008 9:32:23 AM PDT
by
WayneS
(The Mask that Evil Wears May Change, but the Face of Evil Remains Constant.)
To: Between the Lines
Very simple: if your Church doesn’t want you in the congregation, go elsewhere.
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posted on
05/19/2008 9:32:31 AM PDT
by
clee1
(We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
To: Between the Lines
According to Walz, Adam struck a child during mass, nearly knocks elderly parishioners over when he hastily exits the church, spits and sometimes urinates in church and fights when he is being restrained.The responses from the parents to these particulars are not sufficient.
It seems to me the parish has done the unfortunately necessary thing. Six feet, 225?
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posted on
05/19/2008 9:34:52 AM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: Between the Lines
I find it interesting that the mother acknowledges the behavior problems.
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posted on
05/19/2008 9:35:35 AM PDT
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MplsSteve
To: HamiltonJay
Yeah, I first thought the priest was being heavy handed when I saw the headline, but now I think he was right.
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posted on
05/19/2008 9:37:11 AM PDT
by
vladimir998
(Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
To: Between the Lines
I’d have to side with the Church on this one. It is apparent that the child has outgrown whatever control the parents had over him.
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posted on
05/19/2008 9:39:06 AM PDT
by
Hoodlum91
(I support global warming.)
To: Between the Lines
Mr. Spock said it the best, “The needs of the many far outweigh the needs of the few or the one.”
If your child is loud and disruptive, then he or she does not belong in church disrupting the other parishioners. For the priest to have done this means that the parents were probably asked more than once to not bring the child to mass.
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posted on
05/19/2008 9:39:47 AM PDT
by
NoKoolAidforMe
(One Nation-Under God. There, I said it.)
To: HamiltonJay
Walz said the church "explored and offered many options for accommodations that would assist the family while protecting the safety of parishioners. The family refused those offers of accommodation." The church is definitely NOT out of line.
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posted on
05/19/2008 9:42:26 AM PDT
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Between the Lines
(I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
To: Between the Lines
If you have to tie someone in restraints to take them to Church, they probably don’t belong there. At least not at the regular service.
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posted on
05/19/2008 9:44:23 AM PDT
by
joebuck
(Finitum non capax infinitum!)
To: All
Adam's parents have to sit on him and sometimes tie his hands and feet to get control of him, Walz wrote. The parents want the boy to be treated as a normal child. If that were the case the parents should be arrested for tying him up and sitting on him. In the normal world that is child abuse.
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posted on
05/19/2008 9:46:14 AM PDT
by
Between the Lines
(I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
To: Between the Lines
Fox news beat this story to death this morning.
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posted on
05/19/2008 9:47:11 AM PDT
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stuartcr
(Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
To: Between the Lines
The child weights 225 at 13? It sounds as if the parents may have failed in self discipline before they ever got to the task of disciplining their son. Permitting the boy to become obese is indicative of the root problem that is manifesting itself in other ways within the social setting of the church.
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posted on
05/19/2008 9:52:47 AM PDT
by
kublia khan
(Absolute war brings total victory)
To: Between the Lines
My church I went to growing up had a crying room for just such occasions.
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posted on
05/19/2008 9:53:38 AM PDT
by
Manic_Episode
(Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
To: Between the Lines
In an affidavit, Walz said the church "explored and offered many options for accommodations that would assist the family while protecting the safety of parishioners. The family refused those offers of accommodation." For me, this is the key bit of evidence. The church tried to work with and accommodate the family's needs but the family turned them down. I would like to know why. Was there something wrong or somehow insulting about the accommodations or was the family simply being unreasonable? There are a lot of big holes in this story that need to be filled before anyone passes judgment on anyone else and yet, the media rants away.
To: Between the Lines
Some disability advocates are getting behind the Races.Meaning what? They are going to sue the church into making an accomodation in a private organization? An orginzation which has suggested alternatives in the past which have been rejected?
A cousin of mine worked in a downtown public library which got basically turned into a hangout for the homeless due to these asinine public accomodation laws. Eventually, they ended up closing the downtown branch because the people who actually wanted to use it as a library got tired of sharing it with the local winos.
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posted on
05/19/2008 9:55:02 AM PDT
by
Vigilanteman
((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
To: Between the Lines
...he has occasional problems with incontinence... This huge and out-of-control kid pees in Church. It's outrageous that the parents would continue to bring him to service. A handicap is not carte blanche to do anything you like, anywhere you like. The kid should be institutionalized and the parents need a reality check.
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posted on
05/19/2008 9:55:20 AM PDT
by
mojito
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