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To: Dr. Eckleburg

>>For the Son of man became man so that we might become God. The only begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods<<

Unless you can provide a link to the Catechism of the Catholic Church and not not the “Let Us Reason” website (which is all that came up on this quote) I would say it’s a lie.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22For+the+Son+of+man+became+man+so+that+we+might+become+God.+The+only+begotten+Son+of+God%2C+wanting+to+make+us+sharers+in+his+divinity%2C+assumed+our+nature%2C+so+that+he%2C+made+man%2C+might+make+men+gods&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1


169 posted on 05/16/2008 5:59:03 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: netmilsmom

It’s a surprising teaching to the average American Catholic, not a lie:

http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1sect2chpt2art3.htm

460
The Word became flesh to make us “partakers of the divine nature”:78 “For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son of man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus receiving divine sonship, might become a son of God.”79 “For the Son of God became man so that we might become God.”80 “The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods.”81

See Psalms 82 and John 10:

Psalm 82 >>
King James Bible

1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

John 10:34-36
34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are gods’?
35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken—
36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?

The footnotes are also crucial:

78: 2 Pet 1:4.

79: St. Irenaeus, Adv. haeres. 3, 19, 1: PG 7/1, 939.

80: St. Athanasius, De inc., 54, 3: PG 25, 192B.

81: St. Thomas Aquinas, Opusc. 57: 1-4.

St. Athanasius is the author of the sentence most likely to give offence.


193 posted on 05/16/2008 6:23:29 PM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: netmilsmom; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; xzins; blue-duncan; P-Marlowe; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; ...
~~"For the Son of man became man so that we might become God. The only begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods" (Catechism of the Roman Catholic religion #460)~~

Unless you can provide a link to the Catechism of the Catholic Church and not not the "Let Us Reason" website (which is all that came up on this quote) I would say it's a lie.

Now that is really fascinating. I am thrilled you are skeptical of that paragraph from your church's catechism. It is dreadful, isn't it?

But as you can see from subsequent Catholic posters' comments, that is indeed Catholic dogma from the catechism.

And FYI, I did not post from the thread you linked to. I didn't need to. You simply go to Google and insert a phrase or a number along with "catechism of the catholic religion" and you come up with sites such as this one straight from the Vatican which is the one I used...

Catechism of the Catholic Faith
(#460)

"460 The Word became flesh to make us "partakers of the divine nature":78 "For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son of man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus receiving divine sonship, might become a son of God."79 "For the Son of God became man so that we might become God."80 "The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods.81"

As you can see, word for word, according to Rome.

Although it doesn't sound any better from Rome than it does from anywhere else. It's still anti-Scriptural and thus, wrong.

You don't have to apologize to me for incorrectly attributing that website to my post. We all learn from our mistakes, God willing (the One and only God.)

387 posted on 05/17/2008 12:26:17 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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