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Do Protestants consider Catholics to be Christians? [open]
5/16/08 | me

Posted on 05/16/2008 3:19:30 PM PDT by netmilsmom

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>>I think the RCC doctrines are a product of the enemy<<

Please tell us where we stand here. Examples welcome, but I'm not sure that actual names can be used when quoting another FReeper, so date and thread title may be better.


TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion; Skeptics/Seekers; Theology
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To: Religion Moderator

>>Obviously, but I do not want anyone taking your words to heart as their reason for filing abuse reports and pinging the moderators for such conduct on “open” threads.<<

What does that mean?


841 posted on 05/19/2008 10:57:44 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: XeniaSt
YHvH's larger plan of salvation, where His People are blinded for a time, in order to bring His salvation the the gentile nations.

And so, the point of countering "Catholic Church Fathers" with "Jews for Jews" remains...

silly.

842 posted on 05/19/2008 10:58:31 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Religion Moderator

Understood.

I did not mean to complain of the behavior, or tell her to stop. I only wanted to provide a kind of “thought experiment” that might help us all understand how our own actions might be perceived.

Open forum, public square...I accept that completely.


843 posted on 05/19/2008 10:59:20 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: netmilsmom
You challenged the words of the RCC catechism, calling them a "lie," and attributing them to an anti-catholic website that does not exist.

Why do you think the words of the RCC catechism were lies?

844 posted on 05/19/2008 10:59:49 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Petronski

>>Who is supposed to be fooled by post 838? <<

No one, because the link to the Google seach is posted.

(Had the “quote” been lifted from the CCC, with the numbers, then it would have linked to Vatican.va on that Google search with “...”)


845 posted on 05/19/2008 11:00:36 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: netmilsmom

Perhaps my post 843 could clarify it for you.


846 posted on 05/19/2008 11:01:21 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

>>You challenged the words of the RCC catechism, calling them a “lie,”<<

Where?

>>and attributing them to an anti-catholic website that does not exist.<<

Where?

>>Why do you think the words of the RCC catechism were lies<<

I never did.


847 posted on 05/19/2008 11:02:42 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: papertyger
XS>YHvH's larger plan of salvation, where His People are blinded for a time, in order to bring His salvation the the gentile nations.

And so, the point of countering "Catholic Church Fathers" with "Jews for Jews" remains...

silly.

Mazol Tov.

Have a nice journey !

I'm just not sure of your destination.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua
848 posted on 05/19/2008 11:03:16 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: netmilsmom

See post 831


849 posted on 05/19/2008 11:03:20 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: netmilsmom

Incidentally, I normally didn’t go to vatican.va for the Catechism. The background image is hard on my eyes.

Then I figured out how to use “adblock” to remove the background. Much better.


850 posted on 05/19/2008 11:05:22 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Religion Moderator

I still don’t get it, but Okay!!!


851 posted on 05/19/2008 11:08:16 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: Petronski; netmilsmom
Unless you can provide a link to the Catechism of the Catholic Church

LOL. Thanks. And I provided a link. First to Vatican.org which was a typo since the site does not even exist.

Then I posted a link to (and many times since) Vatican.va. where anyone can read for themselves the foul words of the RCC #460 (which Netmilsmom labeld as a "lie."

Netmilsmom was correct on that one. Men do not become "gods" and Aquinas and Athanasius and the RCC magisterium are dead wrong on this.

852 posted on 05/19/2008 11:09:05 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Petronski

>>Then I figured out how to use “adblock” to remove the background. Much better.<<

Have you tried Vatican.org? I hear it’s free of those annoying footnote numbers.


853 posted on 05/19/2008 11:10:01 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: netmilsmom
(((wearying sigh)))

Post 169.

854 posted on 05/19/2008 11:10:05 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Petronski

As a point of curiosity, apparently the CCC that the Vatican website has is simply the result of the work that Saint Charles Borromeo did for their website http://www.scborromeo.org/ IOW, it seems to just be a copy of the http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/ccc_toc.htm and all the contents therein.

So, IOW, there’s no reason, if anyone doesn’t like the Vatican’s background image, to try various ways to block it. One can simply go to St. Borromeo’s website and read it there.


855 posted on 05/19/2008 11:11:42 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
LOL. Thanks. And I provided a link.

And in doing so negated the conditional statement "I would say it’s a lie."

Thank you for helping me prove she did not call CCC460 a lie.

856 posted on 05/19/2008 11:11:50 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: FourtySeven

The Vatican website has a nifty hypertext concordance to the NAB. As much as I love having a concordance, I don’t care at all for the lukewarm NAB, which has all the poetic beauty of a “Nutritional Facts” label.


857 posted on 05/19/2008 11:13:52 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: netmilsmom

I NEVER posted from Vatican.org because Vatican.org does not exist.

Therefore when I said I posted from Vatican.va you had no reason to question that fact and instead accuse me of posting from some anti-catholic website. By your own admission, I couldn't have posted from Vatican.org since it does not exist.

Again, why did you label the exact words from the excerpt I posted from the RCC catechism 460 as a "lie?"

858 posted on 05/19/2008 11:15:15 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

>>Netmilsmom was correct on that one. Men do not become “gods” and Aquinas and Athanasius and the RCC magisterium are dead wrong on this. <<

Can you give a post on that one too? Because the only place I see that phrase is attributed to you.
Show a post where I say that.


859 posted on 05/19/2008 11:15:35 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

You mean this?

To: Dr. Eckleburg
>>For the Son of man became man so that we might become God. The only begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods<<

Unless you can provide a link to the Catechism of the Catholic Church and not not the “Let Us Reason” website (which is all that came up on this quote) I would say it’s a lie.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22For+the+Son+of+man+became+man+so+that+we+might+become+God.+The+only+begotten+Son+of+God%2C+wanting+to+make+us+sharers+in+his+divinity%2C+assumed+our+nature%2C+so+that+he%2C+made+man%2C+might+make+men+gods&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

169 posted on 05/16/2008 5:59:03 PM PDT by netmilsmom

Gee, no where do I mention the WORDS.


860 posted on 05/19/2008 11:16:57 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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