Posted on 05/16/2008 3:19:30 PM PDT by netmilsmom
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>>I think the RCC doctrines are a product of the enemy<<
Please tell us where we stand here. Examples welcome, but I'm not sure that actual names can be used when quoting another FReeper, so date and thread title may be better.
1 . Prayers for the dead . …………-—————————……300 A.D.
2. Making the sign of the cross ………………………… …300 A.D.
3. Veneration of angels & dead saints …………-————…….375 A.D.
4. Use of images in worship………………………………… . 375 A.D.
5. The Mass as a daily celebration……………………………… 394 A.D.
6 Beginning of the exaltation of Mary; the term, “Mother of God” applied a Council of Ephesus……………. .-———————————————————— 431 A.D.
7 Extreme Unction (Last Rites)……………………………… ..526 A.D.
8. Doctrine of Purgatory-Gregory 1…………………………… .593 A.D..
9. Prayers to Mary & dead saints ……………………………… .600 A.D.
10. Worship of cross, images & relics ……………………… … 786 A.D.
11 Canonization of dead saints ………………………………… ..995 A.D.
12. Celibacy of priesthood …………………………………… …1079 A.D.
13. The Rosary ……………………………………………… … 1090 A.D.
14. Indulgences ……………………………………………… …..1190 A.D.
15. Transubstantiation-Innocent III …………………………… 1215 A.D.
16. Auricular Confession of sins to a priest …………………… 1215 A.D.
17. Adoration of the wafer (Host)…………………………… .. 1220 A.D.
18. Cup forbidden to the people at communion …………………..1414 A.D.
19. Purgatory proclaimed as a dogma……………………………..1439 A.D.
20. The doctrine of the Seven Sacraments confirmed …………….1439 A.D.
21 Tradition declared of equal authority with Bible by Council of Trent…………………………………………————————… 1545 A.D.
22. Apocryphal books added to Bible ………——————……….1546 A.D.
23. Immaculate Conception of Mary……………………………….1854 A.D.
24, Infallibility of the pope in matters of faith and morals, proclaimed by the Vatican Council ……………… 1870 A.D.
25. Assumption of the Virgin Mary (bodily ascension into heaven shortly after her death) ……………………………-—————————————————……1950 A.D.
26. Mary proclaimed Mother of the Church……………………… 1965 A.D.
There is considerable dispute over the doctrine of "saints" of course.
Some non-Christian religions that also derive from Messianic appearances think their "saints" become gods.
Maybe you are not aware of the 18,000 post marathon that went on for about 8 months until it finally dies a miserable death. But I was told by several OC and RC that unless I become a Catholic, I will go to hell. To go through that mass of posts is a waste of my time.
In the 1400s it was commonly the case that Western European Cardinals and Bishops had wives, concubines and families. I think “teachings” have changed a bit. Now someone might dispute with me on the matter but it’s pretty easy to find many of these individuals.
Yes, I do. And, I am Protestant from birth!
My son, who is Protestant, is engaged to marry a Catholic girl. They both consider each other Christians, and the only thing I forsee as a potential problem is children and in which denomination they will be raised.
I suggested that they compromise and raise them in The Church of Monday Night Football, in which I’m a church elder.
But that’s something they will have to work out.
***Many Protestants believe the Saints wait to be called up at some point in the future ~ and that so far no one has actually “gone to Heaven”.***
Curious, I do not know of any Protestants that believe that. It runs counter to scripture as found in Revelations, and the thief on the cross, and other verses.
There are only two religions in the world: 1) the religion of human achievement, 2) the religion of Divine accomplishment.
, Catholics would never question the fact that Protestants are indeed Christians.
Despite that anathema stuff from Trent, eh?
I have seen protestants who said that, at that point (Trent's anathematizing anyone who holds our view of the gospel) Rome ceased to be a true church.
In any case, on a cursory examination, numbers 1, 3, 4, 7, 9, 10, 11, 15, and 22 are false dates. On that note, some of them are practices, not teaching!!
You probably mean Roman Catholics, but I don’t want to be picky.
I’m a Methodist. You’re a Catholic. Many around here are other flavors.
Jesus said in a parable that an enemy sowed tares amidst the wheat.
Therefore, some Catholics are Christian and some are not. Same for my church. Same for others. Revelation 1-2 indicate that some churches do better than others.
Obamasama definitely has a problem in that regard.
If protestants believed the RCC was on the right track to salvation, they wouldn’t have protested in the first place.
I personally believe that anyone subscribing to the divinity of Mary will have to answer for it until the RCC changes it’s mind again and comes up with the Quadrinity.
That's a new one to me ... I think the word has always, in Greek and in English, meant a great deal more than that.
Not that dictionary.com is our theological authority or anything, but .... :-)
ANATHEMA–noun, plural -mas.
1. a person or thing detested or loathed: That subject is anathema to him.
2. a person or thing accursed or consigned to damnation or destruction.
3. a formal ecclesiastical curse involving excommunication.
4. any imprecation of divine punishment.
5. a curse; execration.[Origin: 1520–30; < L < Gk: a thing accursed, devoted to evil, orig. devoted, equiv. to ana(ti)thé(nai) to set up + -ma n. suffix]
Clerical celibacy is a practice, not a teaching. Bishops, in either the West or the East, have never been married. The bishops who were, at any point in history, were breaking their vow to God!
Yes. I hear more Catholics going gaga over Jesus than most protestants.
Yeah, I know. Catholics don't 'change' they 'clarify'....
Don't count on it. Mary's a creature, and the Church has and and always will hold to that. There is a heretical "Catholic" sect in the Philippines that believes this, but they ceased to be Catholics when they started believing that.
The Orthodox recognize the first seven of those councils. I guess you condemn them as well.
Somewhere this side of the snakehandlers, we probably all look alike (theologically speaking).
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