Posted on 05/16/2008 3:19:30 PM PDT by netmilsmom
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>>I think the RCC doctrines are a product of the enemy<<
Please tell us where we stand here. Examples welcome, but I'm not sure that actual names can be used when quoting another FReeper, so date and thread title may be better.
Curiouser and curiouser
>>I had a boss that was Catholic and said that all Protestants prayed to Martin Luther.
We don’t pray to God.
He is a fire breathing Catholic. Don’t tell me that every Catholic is an intellectual.
That is what I remember about how he feels about me and others that are not Catholic.<<
I’m going to tell you this, there are loonies in every group and when he said that to you, he showed that he was an idiot. A Catholic idiot but an idiot all the same.
And as I said before, My heart has been warmed by the amount of Non-Catholics that said we are Christians. My theory is that the religion forum has a few “passionate” posters but most of us, Catholic and Non-Catholic, believe we are all Brothers and Sisters in Christ!
Prior to Gutenberg's printing press only the very wealthiest people could afford Bibles (and prior to the development of paper a couple centuries before they were even more rare), but this didn't really matter because the average person could read anyway. God KNEW that it would be nearly 15 centuries before the average person could employ "sola scriptura", He just wanted people to suffer a while longer before they could be saved.
19. Again, taking patterns for man from divine subjects, the Saviour says; ‘Be ye merciful, as your Father which is in heaven is merciful;’ and, ‘Be ye perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.’ And He said this too, not that we might become such as the Father; for to become as the Father, is impossible for us creatures, who have been brought to be out of nothing; but as He charged us, ‘Be ye not like to horse,’ not lest we should become as draught animals, but that we should not imitate their want of reason, so, not that we might become as God, did He say, ‘Be ye merciful as your Father,’ but that looking at His beneficent acts, what we do well, we might do, not for men’s sake, but for His sake, so that from Him and not from men we may have the reward. For as, although there be one Son by nature, True and Only-begotten, we too become sons, not as He in nature and truth, but according to the grace of Him that calleth, and though we are men from the earth, are yet called gods, not as the True God or His Word, but as has pleased God who has given us that grace; so also, as God do we become merciful, not by being made equal to God, nor becoming in nature and truth benefactors (for it is not our gift to benefit but belongs to God), but in order that what has accrued to us from God Himself by grace, these things we may impart to others, without making distinctions, but largely towards all extending our kind service. For only in this way can we anyhow become imitators, and in no other, when we minister to others what comes from Him. And as we put a fair and right sense upon these texts, such again is the sense of the lection in John. For he does not say, that, as the Son is in the Father, such we must become:—whence could it be? when He is God’s Word and Wisdom, and we were fashioned out of the earth, and He is by nature and essence Word and true God (for thus speaks John, ‘We know that the Son of God is come, and He hath given us an understanding to know Him that is true, and we are in Him that is true, even in His Son Jesus Christ; this is the true God and eternal life’) and we are made sons through Him by adoption and grace, as partaking of His Spirit (for ‘as many as received Him,’ he says, ‘to them gave He power to become children of God, even to them that believe on His Name’), and therefore also He is the Truth (saying, ‘I am the Truth,’ and in His address to His Father, He said, ‘Sanctify them through Thy Truth, Thy Word is Truth’); but we by imitation become virtuous and sons:—therefore 405not that we might become such as He, did He say ‘that they may be one as We are;’ but that as He, being the Word, is in His own Father, so that we too, taking an examplar and looking at Him, might become one towards each other in concord and oneness of spirit, nor be at variance as the Corinthians, but mind the same thing, as those five thousand in the Acts, who were as one.20. For it is as ‘sons,’ not as the Son; as ‘gods,’ not as He Himself; and not as the Father, but ‘merciful as the Father.’ And, as has been said, by so becoming one, as the Father and the Son, we shall be such, not as the Father is by nature in the Son and the Son in the Father, but according to our own nature, and as it is possible for us thence to be moulded and to learn how we ought to be one, just as we learned also to be merciful. For like things are naturally one with like; thus all flesh is ranked together in kind; but the Word is unlike us and like the Father. And therefore, while He is in nature and truth one with His own Father, we, as being of one kind with each other (for from one were all made, and one is the nature of all men), become one with each other in good disposition, having as our copy the Son’s natural unity with the Father. For as He taught us meekness from Himself, saying, ‘Learn of Me for I am meek and lowly in heart,’ not that we may become equal to Him, which is impossible, but that looking towards Him, we may remain meek continually, so also here wishing that our good disposition towards each other should be true and firm and indissoluble, from Himself taking the pattern, He says, ‘that they may be one as We are,’ whose oneness is indivisible; that is, that they learning from us of that indivisible Nature, may preserve in like manner agreement one with another. And this imitation of natural conditions is especially safe for man, as has been said; for, since they remain and never change, whereas the conduct of men is very changeable, one may look to what is unchangeable by nature, and avoid what is bad and remodel himself on what is best.
Athanasius, Against the Arians, 3.25
Every Christian is empowered by the Holy Spirit to “interpret” Scripture, yet every Protestant book store has multiple encyclopedia-length series on how to interpret every verse by multiple “scholars” who don’t always agree with each other.
That's the one you wrote that made me laugh out loud. :D
And if Catholics interpret scripture, they do it wrong.
ALL Protestants can do it, but the Pope isn’t able to.
He had a twenty year grudge over the trauma of being left in the Temple.
Hey? Have we lost the Non-Catholics?
So here is something else I've learned, when tons of information is given by the brilliant CTrent1564, non-Catholics disappear!!!
Such a pity!
That CCC460 was going to make such a fine anti-Catholic bludgeon, but then old Jean Cauvin had to go agreeing with it!
Too busy caring for all those other kids to keep track of him.
Black Jack Calvin, the pirate of the Magesterium, a traitor to his faith....who would have thought? *sigh*
Though there was NO MENTION of these other children when they were at the Temple (and remember they would ALL be under 12 years of age).
>>That CCC460 was going to make such a fine anti-Catholic bludgeon, but then old Jean Cauvin had to go agreeing with it!<<
Dirty shame.
They left them out with the donkeys.
Mary and Joseph weren’t about to let raising the Son of God interfere with their sex life.
It was his bar-mitzvah. Maybe the sitter got drunk.
LOL!
>>Maybe the sitter got drunk.<<
We’ll there you go! You know I heard somewhere that the water into wine incident was HIS OWN WEDDING!
I think those Code people brought it up.
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