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To: NYer

Does this infanticide in cases where a child survives a botched abortion actually take place?


5 posted on 05/15/2008 9:38:59 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: stuartcr
Does this infanticide in cases where a child survives a botched abortion actually take place?

From this link....

Obama vs. The Right to Life

Whistleblower Jill Stanek, a Chicago nurse, described the practice of killing babies in what is now known as “live-birth abortion.” Illinois tried to stop the practice. But in 2002, as state legislator there, Obama voted against the Induced Infant Liability Act, which would have protected babies who were “accidentally” born alive during attempts to abort them.

Apparently Obama thought so...

7 posted on 05/15/2008 9:48:49 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: stuartcr; diamond6
Does this infanticide in cases where a child survives a botched abortion actually take place?

Each state acts independently. He often stood alone as an Illinois lawmaker in opposition to protections for babies who survived abortion.
Obama Blocked Born Alive Infant Protection Act

On a recent program discussing the catholic vote, Father Frank Pavone, while not providing the candidate's actual name, noted that one of the candidates favored infanticide. In fact, one of this candidate's supporters wants to see the law changed in order to postpone issuance of birth certificates until a child is 2 to 3 years old.

9 posted on 05/15/2008 10:18:08 AM PDT by NYer (Jesus whom I know as my Redeemer cannot be less than God. - St. Athanasius)
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To: stuartcr
Why would you think it doesn't? Babies of 20-24 weeks' gestation are aborted every day -- those are completely formed children, you understand, that are essentially delivered. Naturally some of them are going to survive until they emerge from the birth canal.

They took that little baby that was making little sounds and moving and kicking, and set it on that table in a cold, stainless steel bowl. Every time I would look over while we were repairing the incision in uterus and finishing the Caesarean, I would see that little person moving in that bowl. And it kicked and moved less and less, of course, as time went on. I can remember going over and looking at the baby when we were done with the surgery and the baby was still alive. You could see the chest was moving and the heart was beating, and the baby would try to take a little breath, and it really hurt inside, and it began to educate me as to what abortion really was."

quoted in "Pro-Choice 1990: Skeletons in the Closet"

10 posted on 05/15/2008 10:28:33 AM PDT by workerbee (Ladies do not start fights, but they can finish them.)
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To: stuartcr
From "Rachel Weeping" "The doctors would remove the fetus while performing hysterectomies and then lay it on the table., where it would squirm until it died. ..They all had perfect forms and shapes. I couldn't take it. No nurse could."

--Joyce Craig, director of a Brooklyn clinic of Planned Parenthood. who assisted in abortion for two months, then quit.

11 posted on 05/15/2008 10:32:44 AM PDT by workerbee (Ladies do not start fights, but they can finish them.)
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To: stuartcr

Let’s see... we’re judging the character of a man who would be commander in chief and will appoint supreme court justices.

This man supports killing/letting die infants who are accidentally born during an abortion, because doing otherwise would put an undue burden on the woman.

This is a revealing aspect of his character.

Even if this situation NEVER occurred, even if it’s hypothetical, his position reveals his character. Do you want someone that would take this position on this “hypothetical” issue to be in the highest office of the land?


25 posted on 06/24/2008 1:07:37 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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