Posted on 05/14/2008 10:16:49 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
I am using you in a non personal or generic!
Perhaps the problem is one of definition of the word, “worship.”
ROFLOL! You don’t need to worry about Joseph Smith. You need to worry about Jesus Christ.
That is most of you mainstreamers problem anyway, you are so worried about Joseph Smith that you have lost sight of Jesus Christ.
Bless you and I hope you can focus where you need to.
Because the post is addressed “to” specific Freepers, the “you” is personal.
Umm . . . no, it doesn’t. Someone linked the Mass upthread — did you read it?
The servants of the Lord do whole the Keys of the Kingdom and it seems scripture does have a say and the Prophet Joseph Smith will be among them!
1 Cor. 6:
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
Rev. 11:
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
I’m not the one worried about joseph smith, in fact I never think of him at all.
will kill me I have never been known to have the best use in grammar
to me if I want to make it personal I would use a name like resty, you are a ....!
On the Religion Forum, the bar is higher because the subject matter is very sensitive. "Making it personal" therefore includes attributing motives to individual Freepers, reading a Freeper's mind, putting words in another Freeper's mouth, making the thread "about" a Freeper instead of the issues at hand, etc.
When in doubt, find a way to avoid the use of pronouns before hitting "post."
Now .... this is rearranging my deck chair to fit .... scenario!
As OMM said ... want to make this about the prophet Joseph Smith and dismiss that fact that all instruction were given under guidance of Jesus Christ.
Well it’s a simple yes or no question. The bible tells us to give an answer and to always be ready to defend our faith. If there is something in the faith that would be a stumbling block for believers, we must explain it.
That's a reasonable stance, IMO. Until someone does show a reasonable explanation about the OP's claims, then one is of course free to still believe they are an accurate representation of what Catholics believe regarding Mary.
I still maintain though, for the purposes of reasonable discourse, it would be helpful to find the sources of the quotes in question. Speaking for myself, until that time, I see no reason to track them down myself, because it's also reasonable to assert that they were taken out of context.
IOW, I'm perfectly happy with saying this is a stalemate situation, until such time as someone provides sources for the quotes in question. I suspect that's the unspoken decision of many if not all Catholics on this thread too.
Well, I haven’t seen any protties who revere the Bible above Jesus. Personally, I wish we’d all read the Bible MORE than we do so we could get to know the real Jesus. Sigh.
Hey, it’s documented somewhere Petronski. I just don’t care enough to chase after it.
Did you click on the link DM?
There is a whole bunch of "venerating" going on!
“Beats me, but they certainly do teach people things about Mary that produce worship, in some.”
I know that you truly believe that some worship Mary due to the Catholic Church’s teaching. Do you have any theories as to why the Church would want to have unknowing Mary worship and not real knowing worship? If you had to hazard a guess, what would you say? Do Catholics know they worship Mary? If they know they worship Mary, why wouldn’t they admit it?
Freegards
If you are depending on baptism to save you, you’re lost. If you are depending on the Eucharist to save you, you’re lost. If you are depending on the faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, you’re not lost.
Bwahahahahahah.
Like Jeremiah Wright, sorry for the comparison, there are some statements that cannot be helped with context.
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