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Religion Forum Guidelines – Ecumenism
May 14, 2008 | Religion Moderator

Posted on 05/14/2008 9:06:42 AM PDT by Religion Moderator

In late April, markomalley and gamecock made a trial run at a “respectful dialog” category for threads on the Religion Forum. The trial failed due to the inability of the posters to agree on what is or is not “respectful.” Then in early May, several other posters appealed for the elimination of posts which seek to tear down other poster’s beliefs (iconoclasm.)

Meanwhile, the situation on the Religion Forum has been exacerbated by posters on the News/Activism forum inadvertently being exposed to religious debate as a result of choosing the “everything” option on browse instead of the “News/Activism” option.

If you are offended that conservatives have serious religious disagreements, do not use the “everything” browse option. If you are new to the Religion Forum, click on my profile page for guidelines.

In response to the pleas for a “respectful dialog” and/or the elimination of “iconoclasm” (attacks on other people’s beliefs) – I’m opening the floor for trial postings of a new type of semi-open thread which we shall call “ecumenic.”

Unlike the caucus threads, any poster could reply to an ecumenic thread. And the article on which an ecumenic thread is based could include contrasts and challenges of other beliefs. However, on the ecumenic thread, the poster must not argue against any other beliefs. He can only argue for what he believes – or ask questions.

While we test this new type of thread, be sure to tag every article so that posters will know when to avoid a thread. The tags during this trial run are “prayer” “devotional” “caucus” “ecumenic” or “open.”

Prayer threads are closed to debate of any kind.

Devotional threads are closed to debate of any kind.

Caucus threads are closed to any poster who is not a member of the caucus. If it says “Catholic Caucus” and you are not Catholic, do not post to the thread. However, if the poster of the caucus welcomes you, I will not boot you from the thread.

Ecumenic threads in this trial run are closed to all “anti” arguments. Posters who try to tear down other’s beliefs – or use subterfuge to accomplish the same goal – are the disrupters on ecumenic threads and will be booted from the thread and/or suspended.

Open threads are a town square – posters may argue for or against beliefs of any kind. They may tear down other's beliefs. They may ridicule, similar to the Smoky Backroom with the exception that a poster must never “make it personal.” Reading minds and attributing motives are forms of “making it personal.” Thin-skinned posters will be booted from “open” threads because in the town square, they are the disrupters.

When you see a post which is inappropriate for an ecumenic thread, ping me. Do not bother the Admin Moderators with an abuse report unless the situation requires immediate attention.


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To: narses
We are about to enter an era of repression unknown to the United States before and we ought to try and have those of us with a faith based point of view working together.

I feel like I'm standing on the shore watching the tsunami of socialist counterrevolution coming in from the horizon, all the while being harassed for (allegedly) leaving the garden hose running.

Focus people.

921 posted on 06/02/2008 4:02:26 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: annalex
I am sure you heard people questioning, for example, the historical veracity of the events in the Book of Mormon, or Mormon Christology that is not trinitarian. Would you say all such inquiries are "attacking what is held sacred", -- while I agree that some certainly are?

I really am fine with civil questions.

The trouble some want to mock, scorned, Bible thump, poison the water, say the most hateful things that come to mind with out any discipline it is like a free for all from the same few freeper day in and out.

I do enjoy exchange even with those who civilly disagree, even those who get emotional but in their heart it was not contempt.

I now have solution I use the Header and I can tune them out on days I don't want to deal with them and those I want to read I click text to Open!

922 posted on 06/02/2008 4:07:47 PM PDT by restornu ( Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 1 John 11)
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To: Petronski; narses
I feel like I'm standing on the shore watching the tsunami of socialist counterrevolution coming in from the horizon, all the while being harassed for (allegedly) leaving the garden hose running.

Focus people.

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Agree, completely. Thanks, narses, for putting it out there.

923 posted on 06/02/2008 4:08:41 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Petronski
Well said. The horrid reality of this November will recall another horrid November -- that of November 7th, 1917.
924 posted on 06/02/2008 4:08:59 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: restornu; Petronski; trisham; sitetest; xzins; All

The day will come, and sadly all too soon, when the Mormon and the Catholic, the Methodist and the Lutheran will ALL be in the same foxhole fighting the same enemy. We had BETTER find common ground.


925 posted on 06/02/2008 4:11:29 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Petronski

Other decrees:

The Russian banks were all nationalized.
Control of the factories was given to the soviets.
Private bank accounts were confiscated.
The Church’s properties (including bank accounts) were seized.
Wages were fixed at higher rates than during the war and a shorter, eight-hour working day was introduced.
All foreign debts were repudiated.


926 posted on 06/02/2008 4:13:12 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Salvation

Ping. Please review and ping if you think it appropos.


927 posted on 06/02/2008 4:16:53 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: annalex

You’re free to believe whatever you want, and to disagree with whatever you want. I just don’t think it is helpful on a forum that is supposed to unite conservatives. We should concentrate on the principles we have in common, and stop picking at the scabs of our disagreement.


928 posted on 06/02/2008 4:18:55 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer

If Mormons and Catholics (for example) talk about their beliefs, they will see what they have in common and that will bring about greater unity than exists today. Talking about religion in good, if civility is preserved.


929 posted on 06/02/2008 4:25:29 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: narses

930 posted on 06/02/2008 4:27:03 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: narses
The day will come, and sadly all too soon, when the Mormon and the Catholic, the Methodist and the Lutheran will ALL be in the same foxhole fighting the same enemy. We had BETTER find common ground.

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Agreed. I remember back in the 80's when I first read that our future threat would be terrorism. I thought it seemed ludicrous. I was so wrong.

931 posted on 06/02/2008 4:28:37 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: sitetest

**It would be bitterly ironic if one could say the most evil things about what others hold sacred, but one could not make the honest observation that the discourse in some Religion Forum threads is reminiscent of DU.**

I tend to agree.


932 posted on 06/02/2008 4:32:03 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: narses

Well the LDS have been pleading for that kind of comradery but their are a few who try very hard to prevent that!

FM


933 posted on 06/02/2008 4:41:36 PM PDT by restornu ( Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. 1 John 11)
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To: sitetest; narses; trisham; NYer; sandyeggo; Tax-chick; AnAmericanMother; Mad Dawg
Maybe we need to put disclaimers on all posts. This is an oldie, but goodie! Au revoir, mes amis! Fight the food fight, FRiends!
Disclaimer: The post made herewith is for the purposes of information and discussion only and is not to be interpreted, read, or construed as intended to induce, invite, cajole, compel, or influence in any manner whatsoever any person of whatever Confession reading the aforesaid post or participating in the aforesaid discussion to join, attend, inquire, contemplate, believe, or concur with the Catholic Church, including those Churches and/or Rites in union with the Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Christ, Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the State of the Vatican City, and Servant of the Servants of God of the Church aforesaid. The party/ies posting disclaim, reject, and abjure responsibility to said persons, Free Republic, and/or its Moderators for any Acts of God by which the Holy Spirit or another Person of the Holy Trinity induces, persuades, or influences the persons aforesaid to seek such information on their own accord through Divine Intervention or by the process hereby denominated "sanctifying grace." The party/ies posting warrant that this is not his/her responsibility or intent and arises from a Power that cannot be controlled by him or her in this life or hereafter. This disclaimer cannot be revoked as it is not governed by the civil or criminal, statutory or common law of the United States of America or any other governmental entity and is the sole responsibility of Divine Intervention.

934 posted on 06/02/2008 4:49:24 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: Religion Moderator
Pardon! Ping to 934. I beg your indulgence!
Disclaimer: The post made herewith is for the purposes of information and discussion only and is not to be interpreted, read, or construed as intended to induce, invite, cajole, compel, or influence in any manner whatsoever any person of whatever Confession reading the aforesaid post or participating in the aforesaid discussion to join, attend, inquire, contemplate, believe, or concur with the Catholic Church, including those Churches and/or Rites in union with the Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Christ, Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the State of the Vatican City, and Servant of the Servants of God of the Church aforesaid. The party/ies posting disclaim, reject, and abjure responsibility to said persons, Free Republic, and/or its Moderators for any Acts of God by which the Holy Spirit or another Person of the Holy Trinity induces, persuades, or influences the persons aforesaid to seek such information on their own accord through Divine Intervention or by the process hereby denominated "sanctifying grace." The party/ies posting warrant that this is not his/her responsibility or intent and arises from a Power that cannot be controlled by him or her in this life or hereafter. This disclaimer cannot be revoked as it is not governed by the civil or criminal, statutory or common law of the United States of America or any other governmental entity and is the sole responsibility of Divine Intervention.

935 posted on 06/02/2008 4:53:06 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: Frank Sheed

LOL! “Fight the food fight”? We’ll get ants!


936 posted on 06/02/2008 4:54:18 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Hi, I'm an assault Catholic! Some consider me high caliber, others just a large bore.)
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To: Frank Sheed

I read that aloud. I hurt myself laughing. Thank you.


937 posted on 06/02/2008 4:55:40 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: narses

If you refer to the religious, narses, then write this down: we’ll not be in the same foxhole with non-trinitarians.


938 posted on 06/02/2008 4:56:07 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: narses; sitetest; annalex; restornu; Petronski

Nicely said, all y’all.


939 posted on 06/02/2008 4:56:48 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Hi, I'm an assault Catholic! Some consider me high caliber, others just a large bore.)
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To: Tax-chick

940 posted on 06/02/2008 4:57:27 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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